Getting a new Gaming laptop

why dont you check all the benchmark links i gave and nobody will overclock a cpu in a laptop obviosluy already it will be extremely heated up so you cant overclock on a laptop without a good liquid notebook cooler then also you wont get much joy
 
Look at the corei7 920 over even the best core 2 quad DESKTOP cpu's...(as the sager uses a desktop core i7 cpu)

Core 2 Quad extreme @ 3Ghz:
Cinebench Multithread Render:10990
Cinebench Singlethread Render:3095
3dMark06 CPU:4467

Core i7 920:
Cinebench Multithread Render:16180 <----nearly 50% higher than the core 2 quad
Cinebench Singlethread Render:3970 <---higher than 3095
3dMark06 CPU:4950<-------Just under 500 points higher than core 2 quad

barney.stinson said:
why dont you check all the benchmark links i gave and nobody will overclock a cpu in a laptop obviosluy already it will be extremely heated up so you cant overclock on a laptop without a good liquid notebook cooler then also you wont get much joy
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Actually you can overclock a laptop, some laptops have decent cooling system...
 
but not much and with 2 gtx 280 imagine the heat
and if you can overclock core 2 quad the you can overclock core i7 too so no comparison b/w these two right:D:good:
 
barney.stinson said:
why dont you check all the benchmark links i gave and nobody will overclock a cpu in a laptop obviosluy already it will be extremely heated up so you cant overclock on a laptop without a good liquid notebook cooler then also you wont get much joy
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The M17 has dual copper heatpipe solutions, the M17X has a completely screw free bottom, completely fans.

 
barney.stinson said:
but not much and with 2 gtx 280 imagine the heat
and if you can overclock core 2 quad the you can overclock core i7 too so no comparison b/w these two right:D:good:
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Hmm... not sure if you can overclock sager notebooks, i think you can though. The laptops arent really laptops as more notebooks, you would want these on a hard surface as they wouldnt get enough air circulation if it was sitting on your lap, plus imagine the heat... and @ sir travis, im not saying that the M17X is a bad notebook, its somewhat overpriced but a decent notebook. The OP apparently is leaving though, and from the ship dates that alienware gave him he wouldnt get it in time.
 
bomberboysk said:
Hmm... not sure if you can overclock sager notebooks, i think you can though. The laptops arent really laptops as more notebooks, you would want these on a hard surface as they wouldnt get enough air circulation if it was sitting on your lap, plus imagine the heat...
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You don't really have to worry about that with the M17X, there is no need for a notebook cooler. The fans actually push the air back and down, not just out. Also, if you want to take it someplace to type a document or something non intensive, just turn the 9400 gpu on and you're good to go for hours.

@ The ship dates on the M17x I configured would have gotten it to me before a month from now, so I don't know why they're not right for him, but IMO a few days between getting a bad notebook/outdated is something you should not risk for a laptop you need for 3-4 years.

@actually, alienware didn't give him the ship dates, dell did. The only way to configure an m17x is through dell.
 
Sir Travis D said:
You don't really have to worry about that with the M17X, there is no need for a notebook cooler. The fans actually push the air back and down, not just out. Also, if you want to take it someplace to type a document or something non intensive, just turn the 9400 gpu on and you're good to go for hours.
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Not understanding that, as in the fans move the air in like a U shape? Thats actually a pretty good idea.. Again as i said before, the alienware notebooks actually are good notebooks, i wont disagree there. But i do feel they are a little overpriced...
 
barney.stinson said:
Anyways core i7 is way better and since its overclockable on notebook so it would be way better than core 2 quad
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You go on and on about an i7 being good for notebook use, and saying it's good that you can o/c it, but say that overclocking is bad because it's bad for heat at the same time? You can oc on both notebooks probably, but the alienware is the only one that has a built in secondary graphics card for actual laptop use. @with sli, you can always disable one (3870) for use too. Does the Sager support Bios overclocking, or do you need to void the warrenty by unlocking it? The AW supports it, it does not void your warrenty (M17x)

Also, the M17X has a wider array of ports.

  • FireWire IEEE 1394a (4-pin) port
  • 4 Hi-speed USB 2.0 ports
  • 1 eSATA/USB 2.0 Combo (2-in-1 port) with PowerShare
  • DisplayPort, HDMI, VGA -Video Output
  • 8-in-1 Media Card Reader
  • ExpressCard Slot
  • Front Speakers Audio Out Connector / Headphone Jack
  • Center Speaker and Subwoofer Audio Out Connector / Headphone Jack Rear Surround Audio Out Connector
  • Audio In / Microphone Jack
  • Two Built-In Front Speakers
 
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barney.stinson said:
........and sager has core i7 for much cheaper price
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Actually similar price... As said before though, the i7 is an excellent cpu, but for gaming you also need gpu. The sager is a great alternative to a somewhat overpriced alienware though. Its kinda the debate between Best cpu and good graphics, or good cpu and the best graphics. At at sir travis, the asus with the 4870x2 also has switchable graphics i think... Sagers dont need to be bios modded to overclock afaik.
 
barney.stinson said:
ok you win you want the OP to get a PC which he cant get good luck man
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If he truly needs it in a month, he can get it.

If you could either get a laptop that has 2 graphics cards, or 1 graphics card of the same kind, which would you get? A 4 year commitment should not be held off by a few days. And he could just have it mailed to his new location easily. It might even come before he leaves, but all of these deadlines people talk about just make them worseoff imo.

M17x=15k 3dmark
Sager=~13k 3dmark (06) with a single 280m GTX
3-5 days vs 48 months with a laptop..
 
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Sir Travis D said:
If he truly needs it in a month, he can get it.

If you could either get a laptop that has 2 graphics cards, or 1 graphics card of the same kind, which would you get? A 4 year commitment should not be held off by a few days. And he could just have it mailed to his new location easily. It might even come before he leaves, but all of these deadlines people talk about just make them worseoff imo.

M17x=15k 3dmark
Sager=~13k 3dmark (06) with a single 280m GTX
3-5 days vs 48 months with a laptop..
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http://news.softpedia.com/news/ASUS-W90-Packs-Mobility-Radeon-HD-4870-X2-101550.shtml

The asus is a viable alternative imo, good specs, plus can overclock the cpu(that is impressive.... almost 4ghz... Prolly unstable as hell thoughXD):
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=218157
 
Sir Travis D said:
Aren't those a whopping 18.4inches though?
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Whats another 1.4 inches once you hit 17" it doesnt really matter:P(unproud owner of a way to heavy 17" HP zd8000... it must weigh at least 12 lbs, and the bottom plastic even when elevated on a desk is nearly 65c according to my IR thermometer. Plus, with it only being $2250, plenty of extra $ for games and a gaming mouse;) Plus asus includes a 2 year warranty stock, along with a one year accidental damage protection warranty for free if you register the notebook within 30(maybe 90) days. Plus gotta love a free backpack and wireless mouse...
 
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That's like saying why not get a 25" notebook? 17" is considered to be a large desktop, and if you're in college, having an extra few pounds (not to mention most cases only support 17" notebooks), is a lot. And the M17 starts at around $1300, M17X @ $1799. Also, Alienware and Dell offer college discounts (7 percent if I'm not mistaken).
http://www.delluniversity.com/index.aspx
 
Sir Travis D said:
That's like saying why not get a 25" notebook? 17" is considered to be a large desktop, and if you're in college, having an extra few pounds (not to mention most cases only support 17" notebooks), is a lot. And the M17 starts at around $1300, M17X @ $1799. Also, Alienware and Dell offer college discounts (7 percent if I'm not mistaken).
http://www.delluniversity.com/index.aspx
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I think you mean 17" is considered to be a large desktop REPLACEMENT;) But its up to the OP whether they would want an 18.4" notebook, to save $800 and get better gpu performance than the alienware.(FYI, you realize the GTX280M is G92B, just a 9800M GTX shrunk to 55nm?)

Just take a minute to read the specs:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220527

Weight 11.46 lbs.

For the M17X:
Weight: Starting at 5.3kg* (11.68 pounds)

So actually... a 18.4" asus is lighter than a 17" alienware:P
 
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