Need Advice/Help with my New Build Specs... ($2500-$3000 budget)
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Benny Boy
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He listed the GT not the Force 3. The GT is faster than the 3 you listed, but, see my other post.
Of the suggestions, the GT, 830 or 520 would be the one to get.
If I've selected the correct drives, it would appear that the 830 is still sometimes faster than the Force GT which is the drive he originally chose, yes? http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/409?vs=533
Anyway, yeah, any one of those SSDs would be great. On paper they're all different speeds, but in the real world I doubt you'd really notice any difference. They're all very fast.
Anyway, yeah, any one of those SSDs would be great. On paper they're all different speeds, but in the real world I doubt you'd really notice any difference. They're all very fast.
Oh ok... Well, I've been doing some research, and I've found a LOT of people praising the Samsung 830 series. So, I figure it should be good enough for my needs.
One question, though, on this... Would it be best to just go with one 256 SSD and use it for OS and games? Or would it be better to possibly get a smaller 64GB SSD as well, just for the OS, and use the bigger SSD for games? What you think?
Here are some price differences...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...30-798^14-130-798-TS,14-130-794^14-130-794-TS
Basically... There is only a $100 difference from 2Gb to 4Gb
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Benny Boy
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Sometimes the size makes a little diff. in the spec. Your right, they're pretty evenly matched, which relates to what it looks like on paper probably won't be noticed in use. I like the 830 choice. One of the reasons its so stable is because they make all the parts themselves, controller and all.:good:
I'm thinking just going with this one -- probably best bang for the buck...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130768
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130768
Benny Boy
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139035
Unless you want to go with bronze, semi-mod instead of full mod, and regular sleeved cables for around 90-100$.
Unless you want to go with bronze, semi-mod instead of full mod, and regular sleeved cables for around 90-100$.
For PSU, I'm going to have to wait till I solidify all my other choices, because I'm going to have to make sure that it has appropriate wattage and cables for all my selections.
650w seems a bit low...
Benny Boy
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The gpu is the big determining factor. Recommended for a 680 is 38A on the +12v rail. So, allowing headroom for that, all the info is needed unless your starting out with SLI. 650 quality watts is more than needed, but to get gold/full mod ya hafta go there. Seasonic has a bronze 620w semi mod for about $90-promo, and Corsair has bronze TX650 non mod for $90-promo or a mod TX for around 100 or so. PC Power $ Cooling has a 600w mod or 700w mod w/ promos.
Don't know that 680 vs 670 will be worth the $100. You decide. You can select games/settings on left, or compare the 2.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/GPU12/400
Don't know that 680 vs 670 will be worth the $100. You decide. You can select games/settings on left, or compare the 2.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/GPU12/400
Added to the list as an option... They are definitely quite comparable. I might just go with the 670 and save that extra $100, so I can use it for something else. We'll see. Thanks for pointing that out!
I'm headed home from work now... so I won't be responding for a bit... BUT, I'd love some more suggestions on the following components...
PSU (Fully Modular), Cases (Must have Dust Filters on all intakes), and also CPU heatsinks!
I'll get back to the thread ASAP! Thanks everyone!!!
OK the Storm Sniper looks like a fairly good case, but I like the NZXT Phantom. It has mesh in front of all the fans so that should be fine for you. Here it is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146068 you can get it in white too if you prefer.
A few power supply suggestions for you.
Corsair HX 750 80+ Silver http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010
Seasonic X650 80+ Gold http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151088
Either one of those or any other quality PSU in the 650-750W range would be fine.
As for CPU coolers, the CM Hyper 212+ is meant to be pretty good http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099 I use the Arctic Cooling Freezer 13 myself, it works fine (even with 4 full height RipJaws-X DIMMs installed) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186039. As you're going for 16GB of RAM viva 4x4GB it may actually be worthwhile picking up an all-in-one liquid cooler such as the Corsair H50 or H70 because then you can use all 4 bays on your motherboard without the heatsink getting in the way. Liquid cooling would give you better overclocks and temperatures too. There's an H70 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181019&Tpk=h70 there are cheaper models too such as the H60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181015&Tpk=h60.
I see you're going for a single 670 now, that's a great choice of graphics card still. Get an EVGA one though.
A few power supply suggestions for you.
Corsair HX 750 80+ Silver http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010
Seasonic X650 80+ Gold http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151088
Either one of those or any other quality PSU in the 650-750W range would be fine.
As for CPU coolers, the CM Hyper 212+ is meant to be pretty good http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099 I use the Arctic Cooling Freezer 13 myself, it works fine (even with 4 full height RipJaws-X DIMMs installed) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186039. As you're going for 16GB of RAM viva 4x4GB it may actually be worthwhile picking up an all-in-one liquid cooler such as the Corsair H50 or H70 because then you can use all 4 bays on your motherboard without the heatsink getting in the way. Liquid cooling would give you better overclocks and temperatures too. There's an H70 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181019&Tpk=h70 there are cheaper models too such as the H60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181015&Tpk=h60.
I see you're going for a single 670 now, that's a great choice of graphics card still. Get an EVGA one though.
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Benny Boy
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I was going to suggest the Sabertooth early on but I didn't think you'd want to pay for the extra. It's obviousy a great board with a lot of features. The only thing is taking the shielding off to clean.
Ripjaws aren't as tall as as the tall Vengeance so Ripjaws will work with Hyper 212/others.
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This gets my vote.
7 yr warranty.
Will run closer to 50% load than 650w.
Enough for a second 670 if you later on decide to.
The graphics will be correct whether its fan up or fan down.
Nice cables. Modular so you only use the ones you need.
Net is only about $100.(NE)
A couple cases. Black/white/ one of them has military green.
If you find a case you really like but it needs filters, they are available.
Corsair Special Edition White Graphite Series 600T Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Corsair Vengeance Series C70 Arctic White Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Ripjaws aren't as tall as as the tall Vengeance so Ripjaws will work with Hyper 212/others.
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This gets my vote.
Seasonic built.
7 yr warranty.
Will run closer to 50% load than 650w.
Enough for a second 670 if you later on decide to.
The graphics will be correct whether its fan up or fan down.
Nice cables. Modular so you only use the ones you need.
Net is only about $100.(NE)
A couple cases. Black/white/ one of them has military green.
If you find a case you really like but it needs filters, they are available.
Corsair Special Edition White Graphite Series 600T Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Corsair Vengeance Series C70 Arctic White Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
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I've actually decided on going with the CM HAF XM. I really like the design, and it seems to have everything I want/need.
As a friend suggested, I should be going with a PSU that is at least 1000w. I happen to agree. Given I will be looking of going SLI in the future, I better be safe now, than sorry later. So I need some suggestions for 1000w Modular PSUs...
As for CPU coolers, the CM Hyper 212+ is meant to be pretty good http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099 I use the Arctic Cooling Freezer 13 myself, it works fine (even with 4 full height RipJaws-X DIMMs installed) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186039. As you're going for 16GB of RAM viva 4x4GB it may actually be worthwhile picking up an all-in-one liquid cooler such as the Corsair H50 or H70 because then you can use all 4 bays on your motherboard without the heatsink getting in the way. Liquid cooling would give you better overclocks and temperatures too. There's an H70 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181019&Tpk=h70 there are cheaper models too such as the H60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181015&Tpk=h60.
I see you're going for a single 670 now, that's a great choice of graphics card still. Get an EVGA one though.
As for Heatsinks, I don't think I'm going to go for a liquid cool solution, just because I've never had one, and everyone I've talked to says their really more hassle than they're worth. I'll check out the normal heatsinks you mentioned. I think I may have to do some research on these. But thanks for the suggestions!
As for the GPU... a friend of mine actually suggested the ASUS brand, so I'm putting that on the list of options (more expensive, and bulkier, so I dunno!) I think I'm going to do a bit more research on all these different brands/cards.
Yeah, I looked into the Sabertooth, and it seems legit. A bit more expsnive, but I can afford it. As for cleaning, that is why I am going with a case that has dust filters. You should see the inside of my wife's PC after YEARS of use. Only ever needs an occasional Dust Off! Otherwise, squeaky clean!
As for the RAM, both of the two options I have chosen as possibilities are low profile, so both will work just fine. I am going to do a bit more research on them before I decide.
Again, as I said above... I'm going to want to go with a 1000w Fully Modular PSU.
Doesn't look like either of these two cases have dust screens/filters built in... This is why I'm almost certain I'm going to go with the CM HAF XM. Thank you both for the suggestions though!
Really, I just need to select the right PSU and Heatsink now... and do a bit more research on the specs that I have a couple of options for.
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You don't need a 1000W PSU, that's overkill, even for SLI. I'd say for 670 SLI 850W is the most you need. If you really must have a 1000W modular PSU, here you go http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256068 that's an 80+ Gold fully modular 1000W unit from Silverstone.
The Sabertooth board is good. Usually I don't recommend it because of the cost, but if you're prepared to pay the extra for it, then go for it.
As for coolers, one brand I forgot to mention was Noctua. Their coolers are quiet, cool very well (apparently) but they are huge, so you'd definitely need low profile RAM. Something like this would be cool (no pun intended ) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608016 or something like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608024 but yes they are massive as you can see from the photos!
If the EVGA graphics card is cheaper and not as bulky as the ASUS I'd say get the EVGA. EVGA make some of the best NVIDIA cards out there anyway, they're who I recommend.
The Sabertooth board is good. Usually I don't recommend it because of the cost, but if you're prepared to pay the extra for it, then go for it.
As for coolers, one brand I forgot to mention was Noctua. Their coolers are quiet, cool very well (apparently) but they are huge, so you'd definitely need low profile RAM. Something like this would be cool (no pun intended
) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608016 or something like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608024 but yes they are massive as you can see from the photos!If the EVGA graphics card is cheaper and not as bulky as the ASUS I'd say get the EVGA. EVGA make some of the best NVIDIA cards out there anyway, they're who I recommend.
Benny Boy
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PS:
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-670-review/8
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-670-2-and-3way-sli-review/19
750w allows 2x670 + cpu/gpu's oc'd + headroom. With 850w being more yet,,,I see no reason to go higher than 850W(except price). If a person wants more thats up to them but I wouldn't suggest it requires it. If your contemplating multiple high res monitors and 3x sli to make more use of 1000w(still more than needed), then you might want to go with the 4gb card. Regardless, you can't go wrong with Seasonic or, Corsair branded but Seasonic built, PC Power & Cooling is another one, so is XFX. Seasonic makes a lot of the rebranded respectable ps's. Channell Well builds good units too and also makes some Corsair units. ..
All-in-one liquid coolers are an easy install and require no more maintanence than air cooler. Water loops are a different story.
HS:
Take a look at,
CM 212+/EVO
CM V6 GT
CM TCP -812
Noctua D14
For allinone you basically have to go H100 or bigger to get better than a good air cooler but H70/H80/H2O 920 are good performers.
http://www.frostytech.com/
EDIT: and Silverstone ^ :good:
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-670-review/8
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-670-2-and-3way-sli-review/19
750w allows 2x670 + cpu/gpu's oc'd + headroom. With 850w being more yet,,,I see no reason to go higher than 850W(except price). If a person wants more thats up to them but I wouldn't suggest it requires it. If your contemplating multiple high res monitors and 3x sli to make more use of 1000w(still more than needed), then you might want to go with the 4gb card. Regardless, you can't go wrong with Seasonic or, Corsair branded but Seasonic built, PC Power & Cooling is another one, so is XFX. Seasonic makes a lot of the rebranded respectable ps's. Channell Well builds good units too and also makes some Corsair units. ..
All-in-one liquid coolers are an easy install and require no more maintanence than air cooler. Water loops are a different story.
HS:
Take a look at,
CM 212+/EVO
CM V6 GT
CM TCP -812
Noctua D14
For allinone you basically have to go H100 or bigger to get better than a good air cooler but H70/H80/H2O 920 are good performers.
http://www.frostytech.com/
EDIT: and Silverstone ^ :good:
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Thanks for all the input...
Given what I'm seeing as far is price range right now with the parts I have selected, I may actually go buck-wild and do SLI right away with 2x GTX 680s (or maybe 2 670s)! We will see, it's going to depend on what I get to in price before adding that last gpu onto the list.
EDIT-- Though, then another option, is to simply go with a single 670 now, wait til they drop their next line of gpu's and SLI something from that line, and give the 670 then to my wife (and possibly get a second, as at that time the price might have dropped). This is also a very viable option I'm contemplating. So I'll just be deciding what to do when it comes to purchase time!
But as for what my buddy said, 850w would more than likely be fine, but it's always better to have some buffer room. And it can never hurt. My wife has a 1000w, and it's never once had issue.
Given what I'm seeing as far is price range right now with the parts I have selected, I may actually go buck-wild and do SLI right away with 2x GTX 680s (or maybe 2 670s)! We will see, it's going to depend on what I get to in price before adding that last gpu onto the list.
EDIT-- Though, then another option, is to simply go with a single 670 now, wait til they drop their next line of gpu's and SLI something from that line, and give the 670 then to my wife (and possibly get a second, as at that time the price might have dropped). This is also a very viable option I'm contemplating. So I'll just be deciding what to do when it comes to purchase time!
But as for what my buddy said, 850w would more than likely be fine, but it's always better to have some buffer room. And it can never hurt. My wife has a 1000w, and it's never once had issue.
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