Discussion in 'Desktop Computers' started by Netskimmer, Oct 20, 2007.
I think I'll just go with the OCZ.
You're gonna have a serious rig soon. When are you buying everything?
I'll probably start ordering stuff by the end of the week. It depends on what, if anything, anyone else has to say about the setup and how my research into WC goes.
How cool do your 8800 GTXs run, do they have stock coolers?
I've read about four wc guides and they seem to conflict a bit on preferences but for the most part they agree on the performance advantages. Though I must admit I'm a bit worried. The thought of building a $3,000+ system then having a leak fry the whole thing is unnerving to me, but as long as I take my time and take great care, I should be ok. Hopefully when it comes time to put this thing together someone here who has experience with wc will take me under his/her wing and help me with it.
It still seems weird to spend so much on a vid card. This is the first time I've had the money to really splurge on things. Up until now I just got a mid-range card, around $250-$300 then got an after-market cooler, modified the bios, and OC'ed the hell out of it using software I got off the internet.
Yes, they have stock coolers, not very cool though .
E4500 is now cheaper than E4400
Yes, they have stock coolers. The temps are good. I OC'd them a bit, but I didn't really notice any significant performance increase. They're currently running at stock speeds.
Yeah. I understand, trust me. I'm gonna WC one the new 45nm Intel's when they ship. I'm a little nervous. Then again, I was nervous before I put together my current rig. Everything went together fine. However, there is a significant amount of risk associated with a WC setup. Continue to research, and hopefully, everything will be fine.
I'm not trying to discourage you, but you will acheive a healthy OC on air w/ the G0 stepping. You shouldn't take this type of risk if you're not ready.
If you don't find the WC info you need at this forum, click here.
It's an expensive hobby. You can OC the GTX as much as you would like. It still will not match the performance of the Ultra. BTW, when you receive the Ultra, would you mind taking a measurement of the length? I'm gonna use the EVGA step up program and trade in the GTXs. Until I get the Cosmos, I want to make sure they'll fit in the 900. I read an article that claims the Ultra is shorter than the GTX. I find that hard to believe.
I found some info for you about the size of the 8800Ultra.
I found it in this article:
Hope that helps.
EDIT: if you are not familiar, 27 centimeter = 10.629 921 26 inch (so roughly about 11 inches)
Right on! Thanks. The GTX is 11" long. I measured it. For some reason, I assumed the Ultra would be a little longer. Every cm counts in the 900.
Well, I hate to say it but I think I might wait until November after all. Thats when the new 9800's come out so I can see what they are made of and if I decide to stick with the 8800Ultra, the price should drop like a stone when the 9800's get here.
I can't see waiting for the 45mn cpu though, It will be months before it gets here and they will probably be unreasonably high priced, and while I was looking at the potential release dates on them Intel had an article talking about their work on 32mn chips with 1.9 billion transistors. So by the time the 45mn chips hit mainstream, they will be dangling those 32's in front of us.
Mid November is only a few weeks off, and most of the parts on my list won't be affected by that short of a wait, probably just the CPU and GPU. Now that I've got most of the rig planned out I think I can survive the wait. We can still talk about and continue to tweak the other components of the current setup of coarse!
I don't believe a release date has been set for the 9800's. You know someone at nVidia?
The QX9650 will ship in three weeks. The rest will be released in January 2008. The 32nm procs in 2009. The price list for the 45nm CPU's are posted here.
This article suggested they would release in November.
Exactly, The only one available at first will be $1,000, the rest won't hit stores until mid Jan, about three months from now. I really don't want to wait 3 months. As long as they are going to be socket 775 and my current Mobo will accommodate them, I think the best thing to do would be build the rig with a CPU that can handle my games until then and then swap it out for say a Q9450.
That article stands alone, unfortunately. Nvidia would have leaked something on either their forum, or to the mainstream technology press by now. Besides, it's highly unlikely that their next product line will carry the "9000" label. Remember, ATI already released a "9000" series. That would be very poor marketing, and potentially confuse consumers, IMO. The speculation continues...
Sounds like a good plan.
So is there an educated guess as to when the next series from Nvidia will come out? They probably would have mentioned something about it if it was going to be before 2008 wouldn't they?
The earliest would be mid to late 2008. It kinda depends on what ATI does with their product line. It's too soon for nVidia. They still have a ton of product on the market.
So my best bet is to just build the rig now with a descnet cpu and swap it out in 3-4 months when the 45nm chps get here. Since I'll only have the chip for 3-4 months, should I go with the cheaper E4500? do you think it will be able to hadle my games between now and then?
Probably. I've heard it OC's well. Coupled w/ the Ultra, the E4500 should hold you over 'til '08.
Ok, I guess I'll just go with the E4500 for now.
Well, I guess if no one else has anything to add I'll start buying.
Yeah, I think you're ready to go. Good Luck!
Crap! ClubIt sold out of the 8800Ultra I was planning to get. I founld this one on NewEgg, it's cheaper and has faster memory and core speeds. What do you think?
MSI NX8800Ultra-T2D768E-HD-OC GeForce 8800Ultra 768MB
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