*Official * Windows 7 Thread

[Kewl Munky]

I still can't get my GX2 working. I can now "successfully" install the driver from windows update, but I still lose video signal upon restart.

Does anyone know anything on the issue?

 

[Okedokey]

yes, its beta

 

[gamerman4]

What reason?

The wallpaper is an image of a Betta fish, and it is a Beta OS.

 

[Irishwhistle]

The wallpaper is an image of a Betta fish, and it is a Beta OS.

Oh, right, meaning they'll probably have a new wallpaper for the final, I just kinda assumed they'd stick with the same one.

 

[Shane]

Oh, right, meaning they'll probably have a new wallpaper for the final, I just kinda assumed they'd stick with the same one.

They will i think, I was reading an issue of Micro mart and they mentioned that The wallpaper is an image of a Beta fish which obviously represents a Beta stage and in the final RTM version there will be a new default background and colour scheme.

Where they got their sources from though im not sure, it didn’t mention where.

 

[laznz1]

sorry to say but im sick of windows 7 bin trailing the beta version on my Dell Laptop (in sig)
and i hate it sorry to say M$ but i dont think it will replace XP

 

[Dystopia]

just got a dvd with windows 7 beta, so ill be trying it out soon.

1k posts! yeah!

 

[foekr]

A question for the people who installed and are running Windows 7 now, what do you think are the pros and cons of it?

 

[PabloTeK]

A question for the people who installed and are running Windows 7 now, what do you think are the pros and cons of it?

Pro's:

• Quicker;
• New Superbar;
• Gadgets are free-roaming;

Con's:

• Most complicated variant system, EVER!
• Stupid software that checks versions doesn't work;
• Windows Mail isn't included?!

 

[speedyink]

sorry to say but im sick of windows 7 bin trailing the beta version on my Dell Laptop (in sig)
and i hate it sorry to say M$ but i dont think it will replace XP

XP is on it's last legs...There are still a few that cling to it, but the general public consensus (at least where I am) is that Vista is now accepted. Only the people with crap computers or legacy hardware bitch about Vista still. The other ones just hate having to learn new things(which honestly if you grasp windows at all is insanely easy). Just an observation from working in an electronics/computer store.

Oh, and windows 7 owns the shit out of XP. XP is so basic and lacks so many useful features that I use pretty much every day, all of which make computing more of a joy. If you really like XP, that's fine, stick with it, thats your preference, but don't deny that it won't be replaced.

[*]Windows Mail isn't included?!

I actually like it, some people (like me) don't use Windows Mail. Why have something you don't use? Especially when those programs can't be uninstalled. Besides, it's a free download.

There's too many tiny pro's to mention, like the fact that games using a lower res than your desktop don't screw up the location of your icons or gadgets, or the fact that thumbnails in explorer work better, or the ability to burn iso's without any 3rd party program.

 

[/\E]

I looked at an article posted by the OP... How can you pull the drapes off of something that already exists? And I want to rip it apart whilst thinking out loud.

* A new peripheral management interface called Device Stage (more info about this is coming in the Windows 7 Partner Showcase at November's WinHEC 2008 conference)

Would something like this involve a registry?

* A new self-diagnosis feature called Action Center

Does it do more than Windows Defender? Microsoft's yet to make a product that can take care of itself without the need for 3rd party apps, which makes them respect the 3rd parties but doesn't say much for Microsoft.

* A new A/V control method called StreamOn

Probably running amok with DRM...

* A new animation framework

I will place a wager that it's very similar to Apple's Quartz, if not a knock-off product.

* New task bar and shell integration features

I wouldn't go that far because it looks a lot Vista...

* Multi-touch and gesture recognition

It would've been a sin for them to put this in Vista SP1, because people are not paying for SP1. This is another one of their padded reasons to get customers to buy 7.

* Improved Bluetooth support

Not a new feature and I cannot see how it's improved. But it's another padded sales booster.

* Ribbon UI akin to Office 2007 for Windows 7's applets

Yuck! Do you know how many people hate Office 2007? My high school installed it last year, I put OpenOffice on a flash drive or I will use Google Docs. The faculty hates Office 2007, they cannot find anything.

Several friends and I took an information systems class my freshman year. We all went to a testing center to take all of our Office 2003 exams to get the Microsoft Specialist Certs. Not one of us can even stand to use 2007... I see more people using OpenOffice than ever before.

 

[speedyink]

I looked at an article posted by the OP... How can you pull the drapes off of something that already exists? And I want to rip it apart whilst thinking out loud....

It sounds like you've never tried the OS. Don't listen to the crap they say on the interwebs, or go by just screenshots, you actually have to use it to get a valid opinion. Theres so many little changes here and there not many people would mention

 

[/\E]

It sounds like you've never tried the OS. Don't listen to the crap they say on the interwebs, or go by just screenshots, you actually have to use it to get a valid opinion. Theres so many little changes here and there not many people would mention

As far as the interface goes, no I haven't messed with 7 enough to see it well. But the other stuff is fair game...

I popped the 7 build I had into a VM just to see if it would run. It installed and ran quickly but I don't see myself on another Microsoft OS. I wish the open source community would work on Wine a bit more so I could get all of my Windows apps to run under it. If I could actually find some halfway decent Linux development tools(C++ IDEs, Interface Builders, etc.) then I would make a full move to it. Code::blocks is garbage, I hate that IDE and Turbo C, too.

 

[tlarkin]

As far as the interface goes, no I haven't messed with 7 enough to see it well. But the other stuff is fair game...

I popped the 7 build I had into a VM just to see if it would run. It installed and ran quickly but I don't see myself on another Microsoft OS. I wish the open source community would work on Wine a bit more so I could get all of my Windows apps to run under it. If I could actually find some halfway decent Linux development tools(C++ IDEs, Interface Builders, etc.) then I would make a full move to it. Code::blocks is garbage, I hate that IDE and Turbo C, too.

It is kind of hard to reverse engineer Windows Applications when developers and Microsoft don't supply source code.

Really, what you probably meant to say is; "It is a shame that more developers don't port their applications to Linux."

 

[speedyink]

As far as the interface goes, no I haven't messed with 7 enough to see it well. But the other stuff is fair game...

I popped the 7 build I had into a VM just to see if it would run. It installed and ran quickly but I don't see myself on another Microsoft OS. I wish the open source community would work on Wine a bit more so I could get all of my Windows apps to run under it. If I could actually find some halfway decent Linux development tools(C++ IDEs, Interface Builders, etc.) then I would make a full move to it. Code::blocks is garbage, I hate that IDE and Turbo C, too.

Gotcha, well we all have our preferences.

But none of the 'features' you quoted are actual improvements that I have seen or noticed. It looks like you just got them from a sales pitch, which in all honesty never should be used to get any useful information. Like you said, they're pretty much all things already built into previous windows. Besides the new taskbar, which although it looks the same as Vista it works much better.

 

[billygt]

Hey /\E, you clearly haven't used windows 7; you say that the new taskbar is like vista, your so wrong (I hope I misunderstood and that wasn't what you meant). The new windows taskbar is simply revolutionary, so much more efficient in use of space and ease of access !!!

 

[mep916]

The new windows taskbar is simply revolutionary, so much more efficient in use of space and ease of access !!!

Actually, they borrowed it from OS X, but I do like it.

 

[Dystopia]

Well, so far, I like it. But i have to see if I can get drivers for my mobo cuz no sound sucks with games. I did game on crysis, but that's it so far.

Also i like the interface. Its really easy to get around.

Can someone tell me why sometimes its sticky? Like, if i want to open something, sometimes it takes longer then usual.

Bottom line: If I can get drivers for my mobo and everythign else, and all the games I want running on it run, I will probably keep it for a while.

 

[mep916]

Can someone tell me why sometimes its sticky? Like, if i want to open something, sometimes it takes longer then usual.

I stickied this for awhile, then the sticky was removed. Long story, but hopefully we can start placing more stickies in the forums in the future.

 

[Dystopia]

I stickied this for awhile, then the sticky was removed. Long story, but hopefully we can start placing more stickies in the forums in the future.

lol, thats not what I meant. I meant in windows 7, sometimes things are sticking.