thanx for taking the time to help me, and i think the guy with the fact about the no bios update is right. I emailed foxconn but they havent replied yet and its been about the same time this thread has been up, so yea they rnt much help right now. I baught the board and i baught the processor. I get no video whatsoever, i do get a signal that switches my screen preferences but thats it. I get no actual screen of any sort so Im going to buy a new board becasu its cheaper than a new processor. and what if i smudged the thermal paste a little bit while i was putting the fan on the processor? should i put new paste on? i can give all the specs of the pc that i have if anyone wants the rest but i'm pretty sure i went through all the rest of posibilities with wireing and pins that the processor was the only thing left for me to check.