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Jamebonds1

Active Member
How does the response time really matter that much? 5ms is far faster than people can see anyway. My monitor is 5ms I assume and I have never had issues gaming on it (that were not directly caused by IGP graphics).
I have ASUS 23 inch with 1080p and 5 ms. It is great for movie and gaming. response time help to keep from ghost or blur.
 

spirit

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Staff member
How does the response time really matter that much? 5ms is far faster than people can see anyway. My monitor is 5ms I assume and I have never had issues gaming on it (that were not directly caused by IGP graphics).
I don't know but I always thought the lower the better.

Both of those monitors are good.
 

wolfeking

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I have a 32" TV and Xbox for movies. Gaming is pretty much all I am doing on the desktop at this point. Well all that would bother a monitor. I want to stay in the 21" range. Ideally 19" or smaller, but there are no 1080p/1200p screens in that range at all. Which sucks because the image quality goes down as the screen gets bigger. (in terms of DPI).

Even the smallest 1080p desktop screens are still going to be larger DPI than I am used to (120DPI on 1440*900 laptop vs 102DPI on 21.5" 1080p desktop). Meaning I will see a difference and be displeased at it. :( but it should not be that bad really.
 

wolfeking

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That is probably what I will go for. Probably going for the e series as it is the same thing I have, just higher resolution. Might go for the cheap one, not sure yet.
 

spirit

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Staff member
OK.

I would recommend Iiyama's monitors but for whatever reason they seem to be very expensive in the States. My monitor is an Iiyama and it's great.
 

wolfeking

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the only ones I am seeing from them on ebay (newegg did not have any) are 40" displays. :( Don't really want to have to sit 6 feet away just to use my computer. lol.

I think I will stick with dell. They are good with monitors, and laptops. Very good with both.
 

wolfeking

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okay, 360 to a different spec sheet I think. Simply because I am sick and tired of the extreme 4 just refusing to do what I ask it to. It is throwing a 9A debug (usb initialization is started (strait from the manual) with any OC that is equal to 4.9GHz at all. Tried with 106*47 and 100*49 and every voltage from 1.330V (48 hour stable at 4.2GHz) to 1.550V and always get the same debug error. So I am calling it quits. This board is junk, and is not going to do what I need it to.

Boards good enough to replace it are all extended ATX or XL-ATX, so a case is in order, which sucks donkey.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146089

and
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128552
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188082

I prefer the EVGA board for its P67 chipset. But I am 90% sure that the Z77 sniper 3 will have a complete better feature set. It does come with wireless and a bloody good sound system installed by default.
 

Jamebonds1

Active Member
okay, 360 to a different spec sheet I think. Simply because I am sick and tired of the extreme 4 just refusing to do what I ask it to. It is throwing a 9A debug (usb initialization is started (strait from the manual) with any OC that is equal to 4.9GHz at all. Tried with 106*47 and 100*49 and every voltage from 1.330V (48 hour stable at 4.2GHz) to 1.550V and always get the same debug error. So I am calling it quits. This board is junk, and is not going to do what I need it to.

Boards good enough to replace it are all extended ATX or XL-ATX, so a case is in order, which sucks donkey.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146089

and
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128552
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188082

I prefer the EVGA board for its P67 chipset. But I am 90% sure that the Z77 sniper 3 will have a complete better feature set. It does come with wireless and a bloody good sound system installed by default.
If you're plan to overclocking, I would go for Sniper. Sniper have dual bios with two different mode on back panel, normal and overclock mode. Plus it is less heat chip and is high price. Overclock video card is stable with SATA power overclock. If you want keep wire more clean, i would go for EVGA.
 

wolfeking

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The whole dual BIOS thing is nice, but I won't be using it. Once I dial in my BIOS, there will be no changes to it what so ever except to activate RAID soon.
You also seem to forget that, while it looks cool, and runs cooler by maybe 5*, Z77 is a half function chipset unless you have a ivybridge CPU, which I don't. So if I get the Gigabyte, which looks better, and seems to be better equipped, I won't get Native USB3, PCIe 3 and I suspect the Z77 SATA3 (that is the only thing that explains why mine are not working besides a board failure).

I am not sure. I will wait for jason to chime in before I make my final call. Unless he can find something that overclocks better or equal to these in ATX so I don't need a case too.
 

Jamebonds1

Active Member
The whole dual BIOS thing is nice, but I won't be using it. Once I dial in my BIOS, there will be no changes to it what so ever except to activate RAID soon.
You also seem to forget that, while it looks cool, and runs cooler by maybe 5*, Z77 is a half function chipset unless you have a ivybridge CPU, which I don't. So if I get the Gigabyte, which looks better, and seems to be better equipped, I won't get Native USB3, PCIe 3 and I suspect the Z77 SATA3 (that is the only thing that explains why mine are not working besides a board failure).

I am not sure. I will wait for jason to chime in before I make my final call. Unless he can find something that overclocks better or equal to these in ATX so I don't need a case too.
Yeah. It is better to wait for Jason to give feedback since, he know many motherboard than I'm. Problem with SATA3 on your ASROCK you mean?

Also If you're not need new case. I know it is Z77 but I know good overclock motherboard GA-Z77X-UD3H or UD5H. Sniper would be useless unless you have ivy. UD3H is good choose if can't afford new IVY CPU. The only thing Ivy is requirement are DX11 for Lucix and PCIe 3.0.
 
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wolfeking

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Yes. On the intel SATA3 ports I max out at 250MB/s (pretty much sata 2). The marvel controller I do much better with.
The below shot is with the marvel controller. I will reset to stock and take a shot with the intel controller for comparison.
 

jonnyp11

New Member
if you sold them together on ebay or something you could probs get around 300 for your current cpu/mobo and upgrade to a 3770k and sniper z77.
 

wolfeking

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why would I do that? 5% better performance? And get maybe 200 for it after the fees and shipping? My CPU is a good performer as is. The board is holding it back. I prefer not to make a miniscule jump up just to get USB3 and PCIe 3. I don't need the latter, and I don't have a USB3 device to use with the first. I am worried about SATA3 though.
 
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