Same old same old

Discussion in 'Desktop Computers' started by wolfeking, May 16, 2012.

  1. spirit

    spirit Moderator Staff Member

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    As you know I'm not a fan of the FX line, but if all you're going to be doing is gaming then it will work fine.
     
  2. wolfeking

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    Well I am not a fan of it either. But it is cheap and can game maybe. But I am also worried about it bottlenecking the graphics. It takes serious processor power to handle these top end cards. My 480 expands the FPS up to about 4.8GHz or so. I would rekon a 7970 would scale even better being that it is 200+% as powerful.
     
  3. Jamebonds1

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    I'm not really fan of fx amd too, but it is cheap and good for gaming. ide onboard motherboard is rare so ide pci or pci express is better way and good for bootup hard drive. startech have good addon card. they should have a ide pci and floppy. it can be found via amazon.
     
  4. spirit

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    I also wouldn't really recommend those PCI SATA and IDE cards. My experience with them hasn't been positive. Installed one, plugged in a SATA HDD, Windows wouldn't boot at all. Even when I unplugged the HDD from the card and plugged it into the board, it still wouldn't boot unless I removed the card.

    Admittedly it wasn't a StarTech card and I think they are meant to be better, but I still wouldn't get one unless I absolutely had to.
     
  5. FuryRosewood

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    still curious why the need for IDE, not quite understanding. i moved away from it because even with my work machines we are getting away from interfaces such as PS2 on most of our 5150s and e521s and its kinda annoying to dig up a keyboard for those as we have ran out of USB keyboards and mice
     
  6. wolfeking

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    Mianly because I am still trying to backup data that I had on IDE drives, and I personally do not want to get a USB adapter.

    PS/2 is because I want to use a OS that does not have USB drivers currently. If you think it is annoying, then that is fine. It is not your computer, It is mine. I will require what I do to get it working. If I wanted to go half ass at it, I would keep my 2600k and get a new Z77 motherboard and fail again.
     
  7. FuryRosewood

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    I stuffed my IDE drives into external enclosures, made them more useful that way, even if you dont want to, id say look at that possibility, because its putting you in a corner with motherboard selection.
     
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    It is not a corner. Any board that does not have that port just needs a PCI or PCIe with adapter to PCI and I can easily get into the drive with a adapter card.
     
  9. WeatherMan

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    How the hell does this thread have 18,000+ views! :p
     
  10. jonnyp11

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    people googling the title of it i guess
     
  11. wolfeking

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    does it matter. Only 3 of the people even attempt to help most of the time.


    I think the plan of action for now is to just not worry about it at all and let it be the way it is.
     
  12. FuryRosewood

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    IDE adapter cards have not worked well enough to bother with them. Usually the board will take em, but requires a updated bios or something, and by the time ive added the driver the motherboard would not boot anymore. I prefer the flexibility of usb with a external enclosure.
     
  13. wolfeking

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    Well I do not prefer to use USB as it is not the most reliable interface out there. I have had far too many issues with USB ports in the past to trust them.
     
  14. jonnyp11

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    then get an e-sata one
     
  15. wolfeking

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    makes a bundle of sense jonny. Get a eSATA case for a IDE drive. I don't think such a thing exists.
     
  16. Jamebonds1

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    Might I recommend this one, wolfeking. http://www.amazon.com/Syba-SD-ADA50...F8&qid=1349663836&sr=8-3&keywords=SATA+to+IDE I have it for my old IDE hard drive (glass-base) to SATA port on-board. It is really good. It can work via IDE mode or AHCI mode (Not recommend to use AHCI mode, might fail to write or read IDE hard drive. Also Rapid Storage would caught false positive.)

    Yeah. Not all PCI card are good unless you want expensive PCI card which is mostly stable.
     
  17. wolfeking

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    Just forget about the IDE for now. I will find something that goes IDE to Serial or Parallel port and use that. That way I can just transfer it to the 1tb jumpdrive (well its a HDD, but I have it in the mediabay of the laptop and it can easily be hot transferred to any ACHI based SATA machine.)

    Thinking it over more. Still not knowing what I will do. Might sell the 2600k and grab a 3770k and keep that. Might just back out of the sale since everyone keeps telling me elsewhere that I am stupid for not using sandy anyway currently. and that it would be pointless to go to 1366, even though it is a superior system for my needs. Not sure.

    I guess what I am looking at on one side is a motherboard, and a graphics card. That will be fine enough. budget 630.
    I am thinking currently of going for:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/GIGABYTE-GA...988967149?pt=Motherboards&hash=item416c3f60ed (looks good enough to me. Gigabyte. ATX (keep my case for now). 2133 memory support (because that is totally not important lol). 4 x8 slots for graphics, supporting dual x16 on two of the slots. still has a PCI port if need be. P67, so plays all nice with sandy bridge)
    There is the UP7 for ivy should I go that way. Same basic board though, just Z77.
    If going UP7 I will do some 16GB DDR3-2400 or bigger memory. The P67-UD7 will go with http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104288


    Graphics I am somewhere between a HD7870, HD7950, HD7970, and GTX 660ti/670. Not sure what the hell I want in graphics as long as it will play nice with every video game made for windows and will continue to do so in SLI/CFx for 5+ years into the future. Keep in mind that Haswell is out early next year, and I might jump on that too, or wait for broadwell before I upgrade. Should put me in the area of about a Q9*** comparatively by then (4 generations back). But graphics should only be on the HD8000 and GTX700 by then, yes?
     
  18. spirit

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    Save your money and keep the 2600K and go for the P67.

    If you want the fastest out of those cards you mentioned it's the 7970, unless you decide on a 680.
     
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    I am going over it 1000 times in my mind before I decide on anything. I am really trying to justify a 7000/600 graphics card for my needs. Especially since there are rumbleings of the GTX700 (GK110) and HD8000 early next year. But I am not sure if that is true at this point.

    Might grab a HD7850 for now and go for a 780 if the rumbles are true.
     
  20. spirit

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    I see what you're doing. I suppose if new stuff is coming out next year (haven't looked myself) then it'd be wise to get one of the new cards.
     

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