Same old same old

yep, I think. The 2600k is 289, so I think I just figured $30 for a cooler, so should be good.

One think that just dawned on me, I will have freaking amazing picture on that T60. 1200p on a 15" screen, thats 144 DPI, so way better than the 1200p on the 17" M90.
 
okay. So I think I got it sorted right now. Might have to get some short ethernet cables, like 3 foot or something, but that will be mondo cheap at star city.

so final list for look over. The things in red will not change as I am 100% sure on them, and it's just here for budgetary reasons.
budget-amount-quantity-link
890-1-1-none
890-2-27.98- http://www.musiciansfriend.com/marching-band/bach-1815-clamp-on-trumpet-cornet-lyre/467468
862-1-12.99- http://www.musiciansfriend.com/marching-band/bach-1815-clamp-on-trumpet-cornet-lyre
849-1-2.99- http://www.musiciansfriend.com/brass-instruments/selmer-tuning-slide-and-cork-grease
846-2-7.98- http://www.musiciansfriend.com/brass-instruments/blue-juice-valve-oil
839-2-53.98- http://www.ebay.com/itm/9-Cell-Batt...69806?pt=Laptop_Batteries&hash=item519d0c250e
784-1-17.98- http://www.ebay.com/itm/LENOVO-2504...g_Stations&hash=item53ed738c2a#ht_1727wt_1396
766-1-3.29- http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-ThinkPa...pt=US_Keyboard_Protectors&hash=item1c1ce6fe4b
762-1-260- http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-Thin...tops_Nov05&hash=item3377c7a9a1#ht_1396wt_1396
502-1-289.99- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070
212-1-19.99- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103064
192-1-14.98- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833166035
177-1-n/a- Budgetary surplus

So does this look good? Are those batteries going to be good? and with that switch is the setup hard? cooler is a hold over to a closed loop. did not want to put too much into it, and it will be sure to fit and not interfere with stuff too much.
 
All looks fine Wolfe, just to answer your questions:

Yes, that battery should be fine, 9 cells and 7800mAH, should last a while between recharges (when using the T60 at the desk anyway it may be just worth be worth charging it).

No, setting up a switch is dead easy, I'm using one now for my PC (got my PC and my Raspberyy-Pi plugged into it). All you need to do is plug in all the ethernet cables (usually doesn't matter which ports you plug them in), pug in the power connector and you're done. There's usually no software to install or anything to configure, you just plug everything in and go. Glad you went for a switch and not a hub, switches are much faster - I've used both.

That cooler should be fine, you should be able to get your 2600K to 4.0GHz using that I'd say.
 
I noticed you saying something about that when you got your switch, thats why I choose a switch. They are about the same price, so would be illogical to get a hub at all.

The battery, I am hoping to get 180 minutes out of each of them. Or at least 90 minutes on a full charge. Pretty sure I can as the M90 will suck power compaired, and it has a 6 cell and run 96 minutes on it. I was mainly concerned with it probably not being a OEM IBM battery (or is a T60 a Lenovo? hmm... same idea)

Glad the setup will be easy. I am planning on setting it up with ethernet to my D630, desktop, M90, and the docking station, and having it strapped down to the desk. Black should blend in and make it all the much easier to not notice it. But Cable Management will get worse. But I think I am going to get some 2x4 and pipe to cover every cable I can.

Cooler, I will try 4, but if it don't, then no worry at all. It will at least give me a chance to test the stability of the extreme 4 before I ditch it for the fatality 1 P67 (awesome board none the less). Can't wait to get pictures of the whole setup.
 
Yeah the switches are faster as they only send out data to the computers which are connected to it and powered on, whereas a hub sends out the data to all computers connected to it, regardless of whether or not they are turned on or not - you getting me? Basically switches are faster. :D

The T60 came out when IBM was being bought by Lenovo IIRC. There used to be thousands of threads on the ThinkPad Forums debating "which was the last IBM ThinkPad ever made". I'd say the T60 is probably a Lenovo. You should get more than 90 minutes out of that battery.

You can get black CAT5E cables if you want to keep with the black look. All my CAT5E cables are different colours so I know where they all go. For example, yellow is the main line, black is my 2500K rig and red is the Raspberry-Pi. Make sure the cables are as short as possible.

Looking forward to seeing and hearing how it all goes for you! Good luck! :)
 
I might break out google sketchup later and try my hand at modeling the layout of my room to see.

I am not really worried about the colour of my wires as I will probably hide them in a black bendy pipe (I don't know the real name, its a polypropylene pipe that is something like a PVC pipe, but comes in a roll and can be cut to length.) I mainly like the black look cause it blends with what is there. My wires right now are all different colours though. Got a coax cable that is black, the computer power, TV power and satalite power is black, ethernet is grey, and I think its a 2 colour DVI cable IIRC.
Im thinking of building a stand to put the M90 and D630 (just letting them fold once I replace them. Right over the Air vent, so should help cool them), and move the desktop right under the desk, so the longest ethernet cable I need from the switch to computer is about 3 feet. What I will probably do is assemble the setup and measure each cable and add 6 inches (error of margin) and get Star City to cut the cables to fit. Be cleaner that way. If i remember right they charge $.50 per foot, so not much.
 
okay, looked, changed, and figured some more. Removed all the thinkpad stuff as it will not do what I need at a level I want. So it now runs the list as:
2 silver lyres
1 gold lyre
2 BJ valve oil
1 slide/cork grease
Prices all stated above
1 HD 5870 for 162.85 shipped

2600k, TX3, and switch shipped next day for 350.93

Still need:
3 3foot or so RJ45 cables

probably going to get 16 GB in 8GB DIMMs too, maybe.

Still could not get the room modeled in scethchup, it just would not do it to an acceptable level for me.

the 5870 I am looking at is http://www.ebay.com/itm/ATI-Radeon-...eo_TV_Cards&hash=item33784c18c6#ht_483wt_3694
Looking to do 3 way CF with it using a 5970 soon.
 
will it really matter in any way with 10 MB/s internet? I do not really network from computer to computer ever, but I think that the desktop is all I have with base 1000 ethernet anyway. I am not saying a faster one is bad, but I don't think I need to use it.
 
There may come a time when you do want the gb/s link. I just know ive ran into issues with cheap switches, though it was a gray/silver d-link job, and it just crawled. It was a 10/100 switch but i think it was barely able to turn out 1mb/s. Though in general netgear stuff = good. Its kinda silly, because sometimes me and the roomie share files between the computers in adjacent rooms, and you would swear with how fast the transfers happen, that the drives were connected via the sata interface, I love ethernet. Would never get that kinda speed out of a wifi connection or such. (sorry for rambling, just love gigabit ethernet) Looking at that switch, its also pro level stuff, solid metal chassis, and such, only issue is the power adapter seems to sometimes come up DOA, if that happens just grab a radioshack power brick that supplies the same voltage with equal or greater current.
 
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wait, which one are you talking about with the metal chassis and such?

and even if I were to network for whatever reason between the desktop and another computer, say one of my laptops, it will max at the speed of the laptops which are base 100 I am pretty sure. The Precision may be gbit, but doubtful. And even then, I can transfer a lot more faster using SATA and the 640GB drive that I use as basically a large flashkey with the mediabay adapter.

The only reason I am getting the switch is to move my desk. I wan't to limit as best as I can the amount of cables running the 23 feet across the room. I can run the 25 foot cable over to the switch from the router and then have 3 foot cables to the computers/docking stations. But I really don't want to have to get something that is going to double the price or more just to have something that is theoretically better, yet will never be seen by me at all.
 
The netgear switch is a metal case with grounding points, its pro grade equipment, hence the cache on the switch. And theory aside, we have used these switches and they worked great, I am not so keen on the rosewill bugger however.
 
wolfeking said:
okay, looked, changed, and figured some more. Removed all the thinkpad stuff as it will not do what I need at a level I want. So it now runs the list as:
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1 HD 5870 for 162.85 shipped

2600k, TX3, and switch shipped next day for 350.93

Still need:
3 3foot or so RJ45 cables

probably going to get 16 GB in 8GB DIMMs too, maybe.

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the 5870 I am looking at is http://www.ebay.com/itm/ATI-Radeon-...eo_TV_Cards&hash=item33784c18c6#ht_483wt_3694
Looking to do 3 way CF with it using a 5970 soon.
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I have a single HD 5870 and it is a very good card considering it's nearly 3 years old. 3-way CF with either 3 5870s or a single 5870 and a 5970 would set you up for a while yet, they're still pretty powerful cards so I reckon that's a good choice there. Even a single 5970 would do I reckon; but I'm not sure how common they are on eBay and how much they cost.

CPU still looks fine to me and going for 16GB in 2x8GB DIMMs makes sense if you want to easily upgrade to 32GB in the future. I've got 4x4GB now but I'm not looking to upgrade any time soon, if you want to go to 32GB in the future then yeah I'd say go for it. Which DIMMs are you looking at? Patriot's 8GB DIMMs still?
 
either Patriot or Kingston. Depends on what I feel like doing at the the time.

And I will look at the switches more, but like I said, its mainly a cable management item for me, so I will not need a professional grade one.

5970s are going for about $400, so $200 a piece on the 5870 chips, and the 5870s are running about 200 also, the 150 one was/is a steal.
I am not sure which way I will go, either 2 way or 3 way CF. I can do either, but I only have 2 PCIe x16 slots, so that limits options.
 
Patriot and Kingston and good choices. I'd honestly just go for whichever brand has the best memory at the best price.

The Netgear switch I've got works well for me. Mine's pretty old though and I've sure they've probably come out with new products recently which are much better than what I've got. :)

Wouldn't really pay 400 for a 5970 in this day and age when something like a GTX 670 could be had for a little more. I reckon two 5870s would be enough. Two 5870s would usually outrun a single 580, see here http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/300?vs=305 I'm not sure how much GPU power you need or are looking for though.
 
Well, I just want as much power as I can get without having to buy a brand new card. the only way to get better than a 5870 in a line that I would e willing to use is a GTX 590 or HD 6990 and they both go for far more than 400. http://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-GTX-59...eo_TV_Cards&hash=item27c8a1abf6#ht_500wt_1156 and http://www.ebay.com/itm/XFX-Radeon-...o_TV_Cards&hash=item4d0286b36d#ht_9322wt_1396 respectively.

Don't get it wrong, I am not bashing the 670 and 680, I still like them, but its power I do not need. Really, I don't need much above 1 5870, but I will max what I can do while I'm at it.

I have used both Patriot and Kingston and they are awesome. I rekon it will be whatever is cheaper when I get it tuesday.

Switch wise, Ill look around, but it is getting more complicated than it needs to be way too fast.
 
I'd just get whichever switch fits your budget really.

The 5870 is still a powerful card. I'm maxxing out games at 1080p with my single 5870, with two or a 5970 you should easily be able to max out most games. You only play at 720p too, so a single 5870 will easily be able to max out anything at 720p.
 
well, I can get a 1080p monitor, but I think that is beyond the point here. I think 4800 processor cores is a good match for anything in the next well till DX12 is released (probably after Windows 8?) and will match the 2600k pretty well.

Might be more than I need, but hey, its my money I can spend it on useless things, yes?
 
It's your money, you can spend it on whatever you like.

Off topic but how is the restoration of those instruments coming along?
 
um... I totally forgot about them. Q (the band director) will fix the All Star. The other one that I originally tried to fix, it could not be repaired because of the amount of corrosion inside of it. Basically the Bell, Mouthpiece, and Valve Casings are all that could be reused, resulting in a repair of ~ 900 to fix it, and it only cost 850 new. Got a YTR2320 to replace it.
Right now the Conn is the only one that needs a repair, and it should only be 30 or so to get the MTS unstuck. Maybe get it refinished in silver, but I think the deterioration in colour adds to the character.

Yea, true. I think I will get a 5870 and see how it goes. If I need or want more, then I can later on. Its all so confusing though. I am not really sure what I really want to do.
 
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