what a n00b!!
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dragon2309
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heh, then he already knows, and he's just trying to pwn off little n00bs for a quick buck.... retard[-0MEGA-] said:
UtopiaComputers
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Let me see, I am guessing that all you NOOBS waste your time overclocking your computers correct ?? According to you people, it's still a 2.8 ghz cpu regardless of the multiplier set in the BIOS. So question is, why do all of you people and others waste your time overclocking ?? OH wait, it's get get MORE PROCESSING SPEED OUT OF THE cpu !!!!!!!!!!! Isn't that what the listing states ?? I am assuming that if you all put in another engine under the hood of your car, linked to the same transmission, that the car isn't going to run faster than if it only had 1 engine ? Oh course it would, common sense would you that it woul dhave MORE power. But thanks for directing traffic to our listing, love free advertisment
UtopiaComputers
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Oh an another thing, I have not responded to any email by simply stating "YEA" as one dweeb posted..LMAO, you peeps are to funny
apj101
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Well the cpu will always be a 2.8ghz model cpu. You cant turn x into y. We are not talking about cpu clock speed which may vary from the model stock speeds.
No one is saying is a waste of time. we all do it to increase performance.
Yes it would run faster, forgetting for a second about the massive engineering issues involved but I’ll let you have this since it’s just an example. But this is not a valid analogy, if you understood cpu architecture then you'd know why... but i'll keep this simple. You cant link the core together with a transmission.
Each core executes one thread independently of the other, they cant share the task between them. They both execute separate threads at a speed of 2.8ghz (or 3.4 since you've oc'd)
Its like having two engine... but in separate cars. Neither car can go faster... but between them they can carry more passengers.
Since ghz is a measure of speed (speed of the car) and not performance (number of passengers) you can not say that 3.4x2 = 6.8ghz.
Now stop being stubborn and realize that
a) You don’t know jack all
b) You're wrong (due to a)
c) You're arrogant (due to failure to admit b)
d) You're a liar by failing to change your listing to reflect the truth (due to c)
UtopiaComputers said:
1) You are assuming-- you obviously aren't a mechanical (or electrical, for that matter) engineer, or you wouldn't be using the above analogy. Placing two engines in series, as it seems you would have it, would do little to improve the way the car operates, if it operates at all. That's like trying to put one cooling fan on top of the other in the hope that you will get double the air flow-- try it, and you will learn that you get crappy air movement through the stacked pair.
Placing two engines into a vehicle will not double the "power" by any means-- If one has a good transmission design, then you might get a 30% improvement on thrust, with a serious deficit in mileage, efficiency, etc.
2) It seems to me that you are intentionally decieving potential buyers, which is in breach of the eBay seller's agreement you had to agree to before selling anything.
3) A dual-core processor doesn't double up the clock speed any more than hyperthreading makes two cores. The dual-core will process a tad faster than an equivalent HT single-core, but it certainly won't come anywhere near twice as fast or powerful.
4) Even Intel says that clock speed isn't everything, don't continue to perpetuate the myth that faster is better.
5) Overclocking voids most manufacturer warranty's even those of motherboards. I cannot see the images in your postings so I can't tell what motherboard you are using for this combo.
6) I see nothing in your advertisement that indicates what you are actually going to do if for some odd reason a buyer wants to call you on your stability guarantee-- refund money? New system?
7) Your feedback indicates that you have a regular problem getting products out to the customers in a timely manner-- you're based in Illinois and you are going to blame two month delays in shipping on hurricanes?
8) Any particular reason why you changed your eBay identity eight times in the past two years?
I could go on, but I think the point has been well made-- stop ripping people off.
That car analogy was completely laughable. About as relevant as saying 8 wheels on the car would increase speed! HAHAAAHAHAHAH!!!!
UtopiaComputers
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Thanks for the comfirmation that you interfered with a sale between a buyer and a seller, clearly a violation of eBay's Terms of Service and I hope that your account is pulled for this violation. Tell you what guys, tell the same to eBay seller, Digitalcrack, perhaps he can better educate you people better than I. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6874843513&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:IT&rd=1 I'm sure that he'll be happy to hear from you all as well. With 981 POSITIVE feedbacks and ONLY 1 negative, it seems as the general public has a better understanding that those that post garbage here. Now you all have a nice day.
UtopiaComputers said:
Good advice between friends isn't against the rules. The guy was/is gettin jacked, so someone notified him.
Just because you can pay and ship on time on eBay doesn't mean you know about computers. Wise up buddy, you don't know jack and neither does anyone else who believes all this garbage.
magicman
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Well, it seems here as if both of you are in the same boat. Both of you are either trading illegally or ignorant and trading illegally.UtopiaComputers said:
Think about it. Walk into a real shop. See how many processors are being advertised as running at 6.8Ghz. Then go ask a knowledgable sales advisor. Wait for him to laugh at you. Do you not think that if shops could get away with advertising like that, they would be doing it? The reason why they are not is because they know they'd be shut down by Trading Standards (or whatever the equivelent in the US is) and pulled before a judge.
I give you the well known British example, that of Dasani, the bottled water marketed by Coca Cola. They advertised it as 'pure' water, when in fact it was simply water extracted from the mains. Then they said it was purified using a 'highly sophisticated purification process', when in fact all they used is reverse osmosis, a very common and unsophisticated form of filtration.
It's your kind of false advertising that gives eBay a bad name. You should go back to dreaming of your car with two engines. You have no business taking people's money, whether they know enough about computers to challenge you or not.
UtopiaComputers
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That's nice dear, I have better things to do than sit here and argue with you people....Adios
Motoxrdude
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ignorance never ceases to amaze me. That is so damn funny! Whoever posted that thing on ebay has no damn clue what they are talking about! As utopiaComputers used some car analogy, i guess ill go the same way.
True, a car with two engines is going to have more power, but go faster, no, because you would redline at the same speed(sorry, that was pissing me off)
Back to computers, lets say you get an engine thats a 350. OC is like boring out the cylinders. You bore it out to 400. Yes it is still a 350, but you are getting the same performance of a 400.
So are you saying that having dual cores is like running two processors? Its not, its just running DUAL CORES. I bet your a person who also beleives that a 3.4GHZ processor with HT and 64bit runs at 10.2GHZ?
True, a car with two engines is going to have more power, but go faster, no, because you would redline at the same speed(sorry, that was pissing me off)
Back to computers, lets say you get an engine thats a 350. OC is like boring out the cylinders. You bore it out to 400. Yes it is still a 350, but you are getting the same performance of a 400.
So are you saying that having dual cores is like running two processors? Its not, its just running DUAL CORES. I bet your a person who also beleives that a 3.4GHZ processor with HT and 64bit runs at 10.2GHZ?
But you have time enough to personally respond to my PM's, paragraph upon paragraph. :rollseyes:
Selling a product, and understanding how the product works, are two totally different things. Anyone can sell stuff on eBay, little children to old senior citizens, it doesn't mean that they are EXPERTS in everything they sell. You are a prime example of this.
You falsely advertise a product because you yourself have no bearing on the technology and inter-workings behind it. Other un-informed individuals buy into this scheme and give you money. Because both the buyer and seller are un-informed and wrong in their thinking, does that make either of them right about the product? No, plain and simple.
Selling a product, and understanding how the product works, are two totally different things. Anyone can sell stuff on eBay, little children to old senior citizens, it doesn't mean that they are EXPERTS in everything they sell. You are a prime example of this.
You falsely advertise a product because you yourself have no bearing on the technology and inter-workings behind it. Other un-informed individuals buy into this scheme and give you money. Because both the buyer and seller are un-informed and wrong in their thinking, does that make either of them right about the product? No, plain and simple.
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