Which CPU brand do you choose?

[Dr Studly]

Speed means Ghz and Intels are faster in that respect

a 2.2GHz AMD Athlon 64 runs better than a Pentium 4 3GHz... so imagine a AMD Athlon 64 at 3GHz

 

[andy5667]

Do you have the facts to prove that? Because i have the facts to say that a 1.6 GHz athlon +2000 isnt faster that a 1.7GHz Pentium 4.

 

[Seth]

I love AMD, 1)Their processors i find perform better (expecialy in gaming) and 2)They are cheaper...

 

[Mankz_91]

AMD- All of my houses rigs and laptops (6 of them!) are all AMD!

I love my X2 4400+ (i got pretty much when it came out !)

And the fact that ive now got Dual Dual Core Opterons and SLI !-

Let the Intel Kicking commence !

Mankz

 

[sniperchang]

Ya I'd have to say AMD, I had an intel before, and now a AMD. So much better. AMD kick ASS! I'm not surprised that on the poll so far AMD is winning! The only thing about AMD is that they aren't cheap. But there's some of the less powerfull AMDs that are cheaper but still better than Intel for the same price. GO AMD!

 

[Geoff]

a 2.2GHz AMD Athlon 64 runs better than a Pentium 4 3GHz... so imagine a AMD Athlon 64 at 3GHz

sigh...

If you took those 2 and ran PCMark, the P4 would easily win. And a Pentium 4 isnt as bad at gaming as it used to be, since some games are multithreaded the Hyper Threading takes advantage of that.

 

[Mankz_91]

sigh...

If you took those 2 and ran PCMark, the P4 would easily win. And a Pentium 4 isnt as bad at gaming as it used to be, since some games are multithreaded the Hyper Threading takes advantage of that.

If so, why do you use AMD ?

Mankz

 

[Dr Studly]

sigh...

If you took those 2 and ran PCMark, the P4 would easily win. And a Pentium 4 isnt as bad at gaming as it used to be, since some games are multithreaded the Hyper Threading takes advantage of that.

y do i read about how many people say that AMDs seem way faster than Intel?
and how come the Athlon X2 4200+ 2.2GHz outruns the Pentium D at 3GHz (both dual core) in every single test? not just gaming even multi tasking which intel is usually stronger in

 

[MasterEVC]

AMD, the only CPU for gamers.

My last Intel CPU was a P3 600e that ran @ 800MHz no problem.

 

[Seth]

Plus another reason AMD are so much better is thay run WAY cooler!!! The P4 EE runs wya hotter than the Althon X2 4400+!!

 

[tweaker]

AMD, the only CPU for gamers..

To be honest, Intel has the best performing chip for gaming.

The PM has been spankin' A64's for quite some time now.

 

[MasterEVC]

I wouldnt say that, considering it has to be ~1GHz higher in clock speed to perform better, which to me is pretty sad. Id be embarassed if a 2.6GHz CPU was outperforming my 3.6GHz cpu (im just giving rough numbers here not actual numbers)

Compare a 3GHz A64 to a 3GHz P4 and which would perform better?

 

[Seth]

I know its retorical question but the Athlon 64!!! (DUH!)

 

[tweaker]

I wouldnt say that, considering it has to be ~1GHz higher in clock speed to perform better, which to me is pretty sad.

Hehe the Pentium-M chip range is 1.6 to 2.26GHz.

 

[MasterEVC]

The Pentium M is Intels best CPU. Its funny how Intel used to say how higher MHz = better CPU, now their slower CPU's are beating their faster ones, kinda funny how they changed their views after that

 

[LITHIUM]

AMD rules all

 

[Charles_Lee]

there is no question about that, amd are much more demanding these days

 

[Praetor]

but if i had tons of money and could get ANY processor i would get this intel over any amd

Hmmm a 8-way Xeon box sounds entertaining ... anything after 8-way, management becomes a bit of a pain....

Theres no Geforce 4 MX 400.

Prolly a typo for 4000

can sum 1 state a way of fixing this

Make a new thread and we'll deal with it.

the AMD X2 4800+ beats it in alot of tests still.

Yes but have you tried doing 8-thread scene rendering?

can u plaz answer these questions im really frustrated

Sure, just stop hijacking this thread and make another

The P3s architecture is really similar clock for clock to the the A64.

1. The Athlon64 came after so if anything, the A64's architecture is similar to the P3's
2. The Athlon64's architecture is damn near nothing like the P3's. Which is why, the PentiumM, in non-memory-access-constrained, non-FP operations and non-SMT, will blow the crap out of a Athlon64.

then why didn't they keep going the direction they were going with the Pentium 3? y didn't they keep the early pentium 4s simalare to to p3 and build on that?

Because people are obsesssed with clockspeed

oh an btw everyone i voted for AMD cus uh... i amgetting AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ 2.2GHz w/ 1GHz FSB and i hear it is pretty good?

Your reason for choosing AMD is a question? (btw your X2 doesnt have a FSB)

AMD because AMD rules!
This is why intel is bad:
1.Overpriced
2.Overheats
3.Bad overclocking enless you have liquid nitogen coolingwww.tomshardware.com/2003/12/30/5_ghz_project/ <http://www.tomshardware.com/2003/12/30/5_ghz_project/>
4.They're processors are also slower

This is why amd rocks!:
1.Excellent overcocking
2.Not to overpriced
3.No overheating problems usually
4.And they're the best for gaming

Nice to see people who really know what they're talking about make comments.

yea

Points for jumping on the bandwagon. But let's address thos flawed points one at a time:
- Last time i checked, similarly classed Intel procs are cheaper than their AMD counterparts
- As for overheating, have you ever heard of a AthlonXP?
- Hmm bad overclocking .... while 1GHz OC is a hell of a overclock on a Athlon box, it's not nearly as impressive on the Intel side on say, a Pressy
- Last time I checked, Intel chips are actually faster. Please refer to intel and AMD websites respectively to confirm for me ... cuz you know... i might be wrong... considering i didnt actually check and just know this information
- AMD boxes do overclock well ...but "well" and "excellent" are subjectvie and qualitative statements. AMD boxes do better on the relative overclocks while intel boxes do better on the absolute overclocks. This has nothign to do with the architecture or overclocking but just because, since AMD boxes are slower to start with, each Mhz gained gives a higher relative gain. Now as for overclocking, AMD boxes are far more impressive yes ... but also much more of a financial hassle as one needs to fork out good money for RAM ... something that doesnt need to be done nearly as much as Intel people
- As for overheating, I'll refer again to the Athlon and AthlonXP
- You've obviously not seen a PentiumM 780 make short work of a FX-57

Can any1 give me a link to a software that can be used to overclock my dell pc??

1. No thread hijacking
2. Read stickies. OC 101

a 2.2GHz AMD Athlon 64 runs better than a Pentium 4 3GHz... so imagine a AMD Athlon 64 at 3GHz

- You've provided an example of ONE specific chip beating one specific chip.
- As for imagining AMD Athlon64 at 3GHz, you dont have to.... you wont ever get that clock speed.

Because i have the facts to say that a 1.6 GHz athlon +2000 isnt faster that a 1.7GHz Pentium 4.

Well its not hard to say its faster, 1.7Ghz is a higher clockspeed than 1.6Ghz. Period.

I love AMD, 1)Their processors i find perform better (expecialy in gaming) and 2)They are cheaper...

First point is valid as it's an opinion; as for the second point: have a look at the pricing again

I'm not surprised that on the poll so far AMD is winning!

Yes because we know the poll is filled out by people that are so well versed in computer technology and all

If so, why do you use AMD ?

Just because one uses AMD doesnt neccesarily mean AMD is better. Lots of people seem to have lost the ability to read it seems. The title of this thread is "what CPU brand do you choose?", not "why do you choose..."

y do i read about how many people say that AMDs seem way faster than Intel?

Because i'd prolly goto jail for naturally selecting those people

and how come the Athlon X2 4200+ 2.2GHz outruns the Pentium D at 3GHz (both dual core) in every single test? not just gaming even multi tasking which intel is usually stronger in

Unfortunately when talking about the chips themselves, the measurement of speed is Hz, not fps, not sec.... Hz.

AMD, the only CPU for gamers.

Except those who want to maximize single-core performance/watt.

Plus another reason AMD are so much better is thay run WAY cooler!!! The P4 EE runs wya hotter than the Althon X2 4400+!!

The P4EE is a discontinued chip. The comparison is hardly fair

To be honest, Intel has the best performing chip for gaming.
The PM has been spankin' A64's for quite some time now.

Minor caveat to that: need to specify the non-SMT games

I wouldnt say that, considering it has to be ~1GHz higher in clock speed to perform better, which to me is pretty sad. Id be embarassed if a 2.6GHz CPU was outperforming my 3.6GHz cpu (im just giving rough numbers here not actual numbers)
Compare a 3GHz A64 to a 3GHz P4 and which would perform better?

You seem obsessed with comparing those two chips (one of which doesnt exist).... any reason?

The Pentium M is Intels best CPU. Its funny how Intel used to say how higher MHz = better CPU, now their slower CPU's are beating their faster ones, kinda funny how they changed their views after that

Well they changed their views because reality changed. It was quite true back in the day

AMD rules all

 

[Geoff]

As for imagining AMD Athlon64 at 3GHz, you dont have to.... you wont ever get that clock speed.

Why would you even say that? http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/07/25/the_athlon_64_fx_overclocked_to_3_ghz/ And i also got my CPU up to 2.6ghz stable.

The P4EE is a discontinued chip. The comparison is hardly fair

If its discontinued, then why do they still sell them at many stores including newegg?

 

[4W4K3]

If its discontinued, then why do they still sell them at many stores including newegg?

Because they don't magically dissapear from store shelves when they stop making them? They gotta sell what's left over, if anything at a higher price cuz' now they are "rare" lol

wtf, you changed ur name???