Bulldozer

[SuperDuperMe]

The 960t isnt available over here, atleast iv not found anywhere that stocks it

 

[2048Megabytes]

Since the Phenom II 960T is not available, are these parts available where you live?

AMD Phenom II 955 (3.2 gigahertz) 95 Watt Quad-Core Processor - $104
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=HDX955GM

Thermaltake A4022 92 millimeter Processor Cooler - $15
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106135

GIGABYTE GA-970A-D3 Socket AM3+/AM3 ATX Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128521

 

[jonnyp11]

he's in the uk, so he can either look at the 955/65 or a fx-4100. then a 212 and a mobo like that.

 

[SuperDuperMe]

i was going to go 1090t, msi 990fxa, 8gb g.skill ripjaw 1600mhz, and a cheap cooler.

 

[jonnyp11]

go for a gigabyte or asus before msi, they should have them for similar prices, if you can find one for 5 or less mor then grab it.

 

[SuperDuperMe]

they dont have any x16/x16 mobo's for the same price over here

 

[jonnyp11]

how much is the one you're looking at, and remember that x8 only looses less than 10% of performance so x16/x8 and x8/x8 are perfectly fine.

 

[SuperDuperMe]

£100 pretty much

 

[jonnyp11]

actually that seems to be a pretty good deal, go for it man, not too much in a loss of quality but a good gain in specs.

 

[spynoodle]

IMO, patience makes perfect right now. I don't know when a patch will be released, but I still think that Bulldozer has the ability to perform better than Thuban.

 

[jonnyp11]

Well it does in one or 2 spots, but even with the 10-20% then it might barely nudge it out or be equal, there will be no big victory until possibly early next year when they release the B3 stepping on the 8170 and any other cpus along with it.

 

[BassAddict]

Well it does in one or 2 spots, but even with the 10-20% then it might barely nudge it out or be equal, there will be no big victory until possibly early next year when they release the B3 stepping on the 8170 and any other cpus along with it.

Do you even know what a "stepping" is?

 

[jonnyp11]

yes, and i meant that when they release the b3 stepping in the next group of the cpus they might be able to add enogh perforance with some tweaks so that it actually is definitively better.

 

[CrazyMike]

Do you even know what a "stepping" is?

I actually don't. I tried to google it, but got some dance moves, pretty sure that's not it. So if you could give me a link or explain (in lame mans terms) what it is, I am curious :good:

 

[jonnyp11]

i was fairly sure before but googled before i replied, and i was correct. But when they originally make a cpu, with no tweaks or modifications just first try, the stepping is A-0, then they will make some small changes and get A-1, and continue on that line. Once they make a larger modification they will move to stepping B-0 or 1, and on like this. I guess you could say it is the like the version of the architecture, so currently we have bulldozer B-2, the next group of cpus out early next year including the 8170 would be on the bulldozer B-3 or C-0/1 stepping or something like that.

 

[Aastii]

I actually don't. I tried to google it, but got some dance moves, pretty sure that's not it. So if you could give me a link or explain (in lame mans terms) what it is, I am curious :good:

The stepping is the version of the CPU.

The original is A0.

Minor changes will increment the number by 1, so a small change would make it A1, A2, A3 etc.

Major changes to the architecture, whilst still being on the same overall architecture, will increment the letter by one, so A1, B1, C1 etc

 

[CrazyMike]

Thanks guys

 

[Perkomate]

To be honest, I fail to see how a new stepping could radically improve performance, except if there's a B0 stepping released.
I think, in my own opinion, that Bulldozer is a dud. They should move on and get cracking with Piledriver, or whatever it is.

 

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To be honest, I fail to see how a new stepping could radically improve performance, except if there's a B0 stepping released. I think, in my own opinion, that Bulldozer is a dud. They should move on and get cracking with Piledriver, or whatever it is.

If AMD's new processor core technology just ends up being worst than Thuban I hope they do not end up doing what Intel did with the Netburst technology. Intel hung on to the Netburst technology for far too long. If it doesn't work better, cut it loose AMD.

 

[BurningSkyline]

If AMD's new processor core technology just ends up being worst than Thuban I hope they do not end up doing what Intel did with the Netburst technology. Intel hung on to the Netburst technology for far too long. If it doesn't work better, cut it loose AMD.

Right now with their roadmap, it sounds like they are. I sure hope not.

If they could give us 8 true cores with the similar performance to the new intel chips that would be great.

I'm just going to try to stay optimistic at this point.