Same old same old

wolfeking

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Okay, so moving to a more on topic set of options. All of this is for the desktop unless otherwise stated.

RAM: Starting with 16GB again. Not sure of a farther upgrade. If I fancy a bigger upgrade, then I will just get the full amount then. But also the 8GB DIMMs are about teh same price.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104292
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220638
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104169
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220619
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104340

which would you get? I trust these two companies. and they are small enough to fit under the HSF easily.

or I can get a motherboard.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130581
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128545
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188097
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157265
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130573

or maybe something else?

And I want to get a add in wireless card for the laptop. Not sure of the adapter I have, it is either express card or the IDE version. Just looking for something that does not overheat and is G/N capable. The integrated card is overheating a bit causing it to disconnect (which is not good at school).

another idea. Would kill SLI idea, but may be worth it in the long run.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186048

Do you rekon that this would be worth 10*c or so drop in temps? Not really sure if it will help. Might need to clean my case and card, but I am not happy with 88*C load temps (well within specs, but I am not happy with it). Hoping to cool it down to 70s at least.

Or maybe this one? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186052
 

spirit

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Unless you want to overclock your 480 I wouldn't bother with an aftermarket cooler.

If I were going to choose any one of those boards I'd go for either the EVGA Z68 SLI or the GA-Z77X-UD5H. Your 2600K would probably work better with the Z68 board.

RAM wise, yep, they're two good brands. Go for whichever is cheaper.
 

wolfeking

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Overclocking it won't help any at all. No need to get 4 or 5 extra frames when I am already getting 120+ frames in my most demanding game (BF3). But I am still worrying that it may be getting too hot. I know it runs hot, but that is not something that worries me. I am worried however that it may not be pulling the chips heat out as efficiently as it could be.

I guess what I am saying is, is it in trouble at ~90* load, or will it be fine till I can get a better cooler later (after I rule out PSU, Case, and processor as offenders in the high temps).

Board wise, I am not really sure still. EVGA is the champ. ... Gigabyte, is a good one too. :(

RAM, That is what I was thinking. I will probably jump on Kingston if I get it. That is just a brand loyalty thing. it used to be all my ram was kingston, but patriot was cheaper when I started this endless venture.

What about a case? Would that maybe help with temps? I was thinking the Lanboy Air. That is a cool looking case, and modular too. But I am not a fan of seeing the insides of the computer while they work. But I can take a guess that the mesh panels would cause the air flow to be better.
Was also thinking of grabbing some shrink wrap, and a dremel grinder and modding the 912 to be better at cable managing. Might also get a metal panel to help with the cable space behind the board.

Aye, all these ideas. Too many ideas maybe.
 

spirit

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Yeah it's a 480, it's not going to run cool. The problem could be your case, or maybe the card needs a good dusting out? Case wise, well you know I like the Phantom, but I know you don't really. If you ask me, the Lanboy looks a bit like a cage, but that's my opinion. The Switch 810 is still nice I think, and so is the Lian-Li PC-K62.

Well the 2600K will work out of the box with the EVGA and as it is Sandy Bridge it won't be able to use all the features the Z77X has to offer. The EVGA is pretty cheap too - 110 bucks.
 

wolfeking

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well, I am not really sure on a case yet. I don't really want to jump on anything again until I am 5000% sure it is THE case for me.
I was liking the C70 in Olive Drab, but it looks a bit small. But then again the newegg pics don't have any components inside or a ruler inside to get a scale of it. I like the switch 810, but it had a window, didn't it? And I am not 100% that the airflow through them is all that great, well on any of the cases here yet. The 912 was supposed to be good with airflow too, but the only air I ever feel moving is right behind the HSF and out the back from the graphics. And all of the fan bays are full and up on 100% RPM.

The EVGA looks good, and is cheap. but I am not 100% on it. It seems that the specs don't agree with the hardware. It says PCIe is 16/8/4 leading to 8/8/4 SLI/CF, but the back side also shows that it is pinned out for 16 on all 3 ports. :( Maybe there is a BIOS hack to fix that, but I doubt it. Just seems like they would not waste the time or money to pin it out for 16 if they never wanted to use 16.
Not sure.
 

spirit

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I don't know for sure but for the price that EVGA is a great board. Z68's a good chipset too, love my Z68 board.
 

wolfeking

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I know I have probably asked before, but what is the difference in features between P67 and Z68? Would there be any real benefit to it?

I am thinking about doing a mod case setup maybe. Still looking at that. Staying with the 912 if I can.
 

spirit

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Z68 allows for overclocking of the CPU, GPU and RAM (whereas P67 only the CPU and RAM) and Z68 allows use of onboard video which P67 does not (onboard video can be very handy by the way).
 

wolfeking

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well, the EVGA board does not have any video connectors on the I/O area. So basically on that board anyway, it is just a chipset name that is separating them it seems.
 

wolfeking

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okay, so I am 50% sure I know what I want to do now. And I hope I am right, because I am cutting it close with the bills to make it work.

Asus P8P67-WS board. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131714 I like the look. I like 16/16/8/8 SLI options. That is 4 way SLI for the win. But going 2 way only for now.

Red Hyperx 16GB kit http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104341

NH-D14.

then the batteries, floppy drive, floppy disk (100 pack) and SATA drive.

this is cutting it very close assuming I do not sell the extreme 4 before then. Assuming the same as always for groceries, I have a $30.79 buffer. :(
 

spirit

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Looks fine to me. Can you get those DIMMs in blue or black though? I have red DIMMs on my blue/black ASUS board and it looks a bit weird, lol. :D
 

wolfeking

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Okay, change of plans. Going to jump on a Switch 810 and ditch the Asus board. That way I am open to Extended ATX. That leaves me to a P67 FTW or Gigabyte Z77 sniper 3. Either would be a brilliant board, and better than the Asus WS board.
 

wolfeking

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Okay, trying to do it a little better now. Lets see how it will do. Going to set it up in 2 list, one for Le lappy and one for CM1.

Lappy:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-Floppy-...104&pid=100011&prg=1005&rk=4&sd=150899831435& (just to have some more.)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Floppy...loppy_Zip_Jaz_Drives&hash=item20c769c50b#shId (to use the above)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/12-cell-Bat...1978099575906608266&pid=100015&prg=1006&rk=1& (already budgeted for 2)

And depending on what I do on the desktop, I may get one of these.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139949
If not, then I will stick to the HDD in the laptop.

Desktop options list, in order of decreasing like in each group. Max budget is 375 or so $25 margin of error.
(monitor)
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/...ynoteSearch&baynote_bnrank=8&baynote_irrank=0
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ACHIEVA-Shi...0951?pt=Computer_Monitors&hash=item3f1ba1fe97 (I really like this one, and claptonman has one)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009306 (cheaper than dell)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824254091
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-VS229H...6375?pt=Computer_Monitors&hash=item46051b0067 (IPS yes?)

(Graphics)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130782
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130809
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129205
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102982R
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102987

(Power)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171063
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341053
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371060

(RAM)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220637
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104302
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220690
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104169

(HDD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148844

(Cooler) (this one is not in any order. So many looked good that I am just throwing them on here as I get to the tab)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608024
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181017
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186066 (extreme means good, yes?)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835709004
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118097
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106186
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835220047
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835242021 (this looks exactly like what 87dtna recommended)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106178

So what would you choose in the 375 budget here? I don't really need a graphics card, as a monitor would be needed to make use of it.
 

jonnyp11

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http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/550?vs=647

depending on the games you want to play the 7950 and 660ti look pretty equal, although i'd get this 7950 way before that one

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202006

For the psu i'm split between the antec and the cooler master, the fatality just seems too low on the amperage for the stuff you got (what is it now? 2 480's and whichever gpu?). The antec looks good with a total of 160 amps but it's split over 4 rails, but that should still be fine, just not entirely sure on that

IDK about the ram, it's up to you, you know how much you'll need and all so you shouldn't really need us to tell you that...

Not sure on the cooler, many look good, but overall the arctic stands out to me with the copper tubing which should transfer the heat better, but that doesn't mean it will cooler better or quieter.

For the actual question...

IDK what exactly you'll be doing (well i do some but...) enough to say what you need without seeing the performance myself. IIRC you have the 2600k running at a good high clock on the 212 so i wouldn't spend 80 to go from 4.2ghz to 4.5 or anything, and running at those speeds is overvolting a good bit probably and draining the processors life (if you ain't got it intel actually has overclocker's insurance for like 30 or 35, worth looking into if you want to play with it more). I don't know how full your current hdd is or how soon it will fill up so i can't say anything about the hdd. RAM is the same as i said above, idk what you need, 16 should be fine but 8 shouldn't really hold you back much. Not sure the current psu so can't say and unless you get a 3rd gpu then you shouldn't need more, and you didn't want to get the gpu since it is useless on the current monitor...that money is just no good, you should just give it to me so you don't have to worry about spending it :p

Really i'd go for the gpu (of course power issues possible...but i'd personally just get rid of the 480's or sli them for gaming and leave it at that instead of folding), then next month get a monitor like that (someone here got one like that, try to find out which if you can). As for which gpu, i'd get the 660ti probably for drivers, the games it does better on are generally bigger titles, and it comes with borderlands 2 (great game and if you don't want it, if you've seen the rol or whatever thread it was, then you know i'll take it :D)
 
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wolfeking

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My current setup is:
HAF 912 (need a new drill bit to mod it some more. :) ) with all fan bays filled up with 120s.
LG DVD drive
Extreme 4 motherboard, that is getting sorted a little at a time.
2600k @ stock (can hold 4.6 auto OC but in the lower 80s temps)
8GB of Gamer 2 @ 1333 (1600 stock, can hold 1866 @ CAS 9 and 2133 @ CAS11.)
GTX 480 @ stock speeds EVGA reference design
OCZ modstream 600 watt. I hate this PSU, it is not long enough (all the cables are too short just about)
1TB HDD @ 820 GB used
640GB @ 400 GB used
128GB SSD @ fresh install of vista and drivers used.
720p Dell monitor
212 EVO cooler.

I am maxxing my RAM out fairly regularly on windows 7. Will do so on vista too. Running simulations and rendering images, and rendering on CAD, I could do with as much RAM as possible. I don't mind spending money on that at all.



My main issue, as it has been before, is that if I don't spend it on my computer, I end up spending it on Trumpets or other music things. I have just gotten my F. Besson fixed, so I really need to stop worrying with those.
 

jonnyp11

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you got nearly 500gb free so you can hold the hdd off till next month, not a curren priority for 150 bucks imo.

I'd stick the 16gb kit in and if you still need more then sell the current 8 and grab another 16 later, i'd go for these cuz for 5 bucks they look alot cooler and match the mobo's black coloring

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...na&AID=10446076&PID=4169961&SID=1t62ieyp7bcn2

I mean if it can hold 4.6 in the lower 80's i'd leave the cpu around 4ghz provided it wasn't overvolted too much, one or 2 over the max default won't do too much, though if it is still jumping around so much that wouldn't be great.

and i wouldn't want a 480 and a 660ti or anything on that psu, but like you had said, no point in wasting a 660ti on a 720p, but you'd have to make that a 3 month split order or something unless you can get an advance but who knows what might pop up over that time.

Really your just in an odd spot where a lot could be done but nothing really needs to be done. I think i might go for the monitor and ram if possible now, next month take the 480 out and get the 660ti, then after that get the new psu and put the 480 back in for folding if you must.
 

wolfeking

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you got nearly 500gb free so you can hold the hdd off till next month, not a curren priority for 150 bucks imo.
That is what I am thinking. They might continue coming down in price too.

I'd stick the 16gb kit in and if you still need more then sell the current 8 and grab another 16 later, i'd go for these cuz for 5 bucks they look alot cooler and match the mobo's black coloring

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...na&AID=10446076&PID=4169961&SID=1t62ieyp7bcn2
I would love to know where everyone keeps thinking the Extreme 4 is a black motherboard. If it is black, I am colour blind. It is brown.

Cool is a matter of opinion. To me Ram is Ram. It would be cooler if it could hum a march and had a flashing sign announcing its intentions.
I like subdued RAM, well all computer parts really.

I mean if it can hold 4.6 in the lower 80's i'd leave the cpu around 4ghz provided it wasn't overvolted too much, one or 2 over the max default won't do too much, though if it is still jumping around so much that wouldn't be great.
The voltage jump is still there. We are working on that. Testing RAM currently. But I would not want to run it at 4GHz. I can leave it at stock and still do as much work as 4GHz (that is a .2 GHz difference). 4.6-5GHz is where I want it ideally. The current cooler is not cutting it there. It is good I rekon, it does 45* @ stock on idle 68-70* stock at full load, which I guess is better than stock cooler.

and i wouldn't want a 480 and a 660ti or anything on that psu, but like you had said, no point in wasting a 660ti on a 720p, but you'd have to make that a 3 month split order or something unless you can get an advance but who knows what might pop up over that time.
It will not run both anyway. Not enough PCIe leads. And it is one or the other, not both. I can not run both because of a severe lack of PCIe bandwidth. The x8 bandwidth will hurt it in folding definitely.


Really your just in an odd spot where a lot could be done but nothing really needs to be done. I think i might go for the monitor and ram if possible now, next month take the 480 out and get the 660ti, then after that get the new psu and put the 480 back in for folding if you must.
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There is something that needs to be done. It needs to be cleaned a bit, finishing the cable management mods (because CM were retards when they designed it to start with), and repainted, as a lot of the paint is starting to peel.

I think what I may do, assuming Jason does not see any major issues with it is I will get a 1080p monitor, maybe that 1440p and get a RAM kit and be done. and call it done. Save later if I need a Graphics card or anything more and put it in then.
 
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