Windows 10

Dimitri

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So... fellas, anyone got any ideas on this one :)

I'm having troulbe with Win10 updates.

I tried the group policy method to change the update policy and I set it to "allow local admin to change..." and I click update (so that it would take) but it still says "updates will be downloaded automatically" and I can't change squat.

Then I set it to "notify me" and it STILL says "updates will be downloaded automaticall."

I even tried to set it to "notify" with Winaero Tweaker, but even that didn't take.

HOWEVER, some days ago I got notified that this update is available:

Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool for Windows 8, 8.1, 10 and Windows Server 2012, 2012 R2, 2016 x64 Edition - February 2017 (KB890830).

And it WASN'T installed automatically. Matter of fact, I've been avoiding it for a while now :) Periodically I'll get a message that says something like "Updates need to be installed" but I can close it.

Trouble is, there's no way for me to just dismiss this update and tell Win to not ever download it, furthermore, I imagine that when ANOTHER update comes, one that I DO need and want, I won't be able to install it without also installing this thing I don't want.
 

timekiller89

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Windows 10 is a very nice OS, I feel the UI is rather appealing to my eye, and it works with most programs I use absolutely fine. It's also fast and works relatively well, although not as well-optimised as Mac OS, I feel that they've done a better job with optimisation here than Windows 7. It's definitely a great OS that will become one of the best in some time.

Although this is not related to the current train of discussion, I wanted to dump my thoughts on the OS here.
 

Jiniix

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With the recent leaks of ads in the file manager, I'm not having good hopes. Even if it's just for M$ products, such as OneDrive etc. Get that sheet away from me. I paid for this.. :)

Edit: Just saw these:


This guy was part of developing the kernel for Windows 8.1, the actual good part :)
 
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Calin

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So I just installed the Creators Update, and I'm happy to say that all the Windows Store apps work fine now. Before I was getting "Error, see details" when trying to install an app. It was driving me nuts and I did all I found online and it didn't help me. But updating to the Creators Update did. Thank God.
 

johnb35

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So I just installed the Creators Update, and I'm happy to say that all the Windows Store apps work fine now. Before I was getting "Error, see details" when trying to install an app. It was driving me nuts and I did all I found online and it didn't help me. But updating to the Creators Update did. Thank God.
I just got a popup about the creators update and wanting to verify my privacy information, so I guess I'll be getting any day now.

Also want to let everyone know that i bought windows 10 OEM 64bit at Fry's yesterday for a build for a client of mine and realized that you now have to scratch off the area above the key. DO NOT think you have to pull up on the tape as you'll destroy the sticker and key. Think god I stopped before destroying it. I inadvertently scratched the gray area and realized thats what it was. There were no directions on how to see the key.
 

speedyink

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So windows is trying to install the creators update, but twice now it botched up my windows installation. It ends up having to restore the previous version, and then I get the damn popup to update again. I really hope I'm not stuck in an endless loop >_<
 

Darren

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So windows is trying to install the creators update, but twice now it botched up my windows installation. It ends up having to restore the previous version, and then I get the damn popup to update again. I really hope I'm not stuck in an endless loop >_<
Are you running an upgraded copy of 10 or a clean install?
 

speedyink

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Are you running an upgraded copy of 10 or a clean install?
It was upgraded, but I did that restore option in settings that's suppose to basically reinstall Windows. It's not complaining at me to update anymore, maybe it managed to do it one night.. Actually I don't think it did, I don't seem to have some of the new things it changes. Maybe it will leave me along for a while at least =P
 

Darren

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It was upgraded, but I did that restore option in settings that's suppose to basically reinstall Windows. It's not complaining at me to update anymore, maybe it managed to do it one night.. Actually I don't think it did, I don't seem to have some of the new things it changes. Maybe it will leave me along for a while at least =P
Honestly as much issue as you're having just create a bootable USB and nuke the damn thing. Windows 10 CAN be really weird about updates and issues like that but a truly clean install with some level of maintenance is pretty painfree in the updating process.
 

speedyink

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Honestly as much issue as you're having just create a bootable USB and nuke the damn thing. Windows 10 CAN be really weird about updates and issues like that but a truly clean install with some level of maintenance is pretty painfree in the updating process.
I would love to nuke it and start fresh, just worried about activation. Windows 8 made things really screwy, I don't have a key I can just type in. I remember when I threw an SSD in there for my C: I reinstalled windows 8 from fresh thinking the activation was tied to the mobo or something. Apparantly not, cause I couldn't get the damn thing to activate. I'm pretty sure I ended up cloning the original hard drive to the SSD or something dumb like that.
I refuse to pay money for Windows 10, so if it ends up not activating I'd probably go back to Windows 7. But then no DX12, or Ryzen support for the future, so AARG. Microsoft really put anyone who doesn't want Windows 10 between a rock and a hard place >_<
 

Darren

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I would love to nuke it and start fresh, just worried about activation. Windows 8 made things really screwy, I don't have a key I can just type in. I remember when I threw an SSD in there for my C: I reinstalled windows 8 from fresh thinking the activation was tied to the mobo or something. Apparantly not, cause I couldn't get the damn thing to activate. I'm pretty sure I ended up cloning the original hard drive to the SSD or something dumb like that.
I refuse to pay money for Windows 10, so if it ends up not activating I'd probably go back to Windows 7. But then no DX12, or Ryzen support for the future, so AARG. Microsoft really put anyone who doesn't want Windows 10 between a rock and a hard place >_<
If 10 is active now then it will be active when you reinstall it on the same hardware.
 

speedyink

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If 10 is active now then it will be active when you reinstall it on the same hardware.
Really? Well I suppose it's worth a shot. From Windows XP - 7 I reinstalled a fresh windows image on any new PC me or someone I knew bought. Just seemed to start them off on a good foot. Then I got this Windows 8 PC, did the same while upgrading with an SSD, and it just refuses to activate. It kind of made me leery of messing with newer, keyless Windows installs. So I definitely like the idea of starting from scratch. Will give it a shot when I got a bit of spare time.
 

Darren

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Really? Well I suppose it's worth a shot. From Windows XP - 7 I reinstalled a fresh windows image on any new PC me or someone I knew bought. Just seemed to start them off on a good foot. Then I got this Windows 8 PC, did the same while upgrading with an SSD, and it just refuses to activate. It kind of made me leery of messing with newer, keyless Windows installs. So I definitely like the idea of starting from scratch. Will give it a shot when I got a bit of spare time.
Ya you're way too worried about it I think. :D I'm using an OEM key of Windows 7 Home Premium I bought on Newegg in 2011. It's seen 3 motherboards, 3 CPU's, 5 GPU's, and probably 10 reinstalls over 3 different drives. Ever since I installed 10 it's activated automatically every time.
 

speedyink

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Ya you're way too worried about it I think. :D I'm using an OEM key of Windows 7 Home Premium I bought on Newegg in 2011. It's seen 3 motherboards, 3 CPU's, 5 GPU's, and probably 10 reinstalls over 3 different drives. Ever since I installed 10 it's activated automatically every time.
Well there ya go, you're a lucky bastard who started with a Windows 7 key =P Like I said, with Windows 8 OEM keys got all weird.
 

Darren

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Well there ya go, you're a lucky bastard who started with a Windows 7 key =P Like I said, with Windows 8 OEM keys got all weird.
I also install Windows on machines that we sell at work. I've installed and activated hundreds of copies of Windows 10 over the past 9 months. Including ones that came with 8. :D
 

speedyink

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I also install Windows on machines that we sell at work. I've installed and activated hundreds of copies of Windows 10 over the past 9 months. Including ones that came with 8. :D
Well it definitely should work then. Been too busy lately to do it to my machine. Got my grandpas laptop, he wants 8.1 back on it.. that should be fun >_< Pretty sure that won't work as the key gets turned into a 10 key, but we'll see. I have to try so I can say I did, then if it doesn't work I'll tell him if he wants 8.1 he'll have to buy it again.
 

Darren

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Well it definitely should work then. Been too busy lately to do it to my machine. Got my grandpas laptop, he wants 8.1 back on it.. that should be fun >_< Pretty sure that won't work as the key gets turned into a 10 key, but we'll see. I have to try so I can say I did, then if it doesn't work I'll tell him if he wants 8.1 he'll have to buy it again.
For the love of God don't let that man pay for Windows 8.1 twice. Once is bad enough.

You are correct though, he's gonna be stuck with 10. I truly believe people will like 10 better than 8.1 once they get used to it as it functions way more along the lines of 7 than 8/8.1. Maybe having to rebuy 8 will motivate him to stick with 10.
 
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