windows 8 beta is now out

[S.T.A.R.S.]

Well look at it this way people.
Microsoft NEEDS to make new things ALL THE TIME and that is not an easy task.
Sometimes their ideas are good,sometimes not.
All in all it's not easy.

You should try making SO MANY new things in a such short period of time and you would see that it's harder than it may seem.

Until now Microsoft has made MANY operating systems and each one of them has SOMETHING what is useful to people.
To some people it's this,to some people it's that,to some people it's something else and so on...
All in all I think they are doing a pretty good job because they have made many different operating systems and EVERY PERSON on this planet Earth CAN find an OS that fits their need GREAT especially considering they do this to fit the needs of all the people on this planet...

There is/are no bad operating system(s).Only bad user(s) with small amount of knowledge in order to use them properly...




Cheers!

 

[spirit]

Microsoft NEEDS to make new things ALL THE TIME and that is not an easy task.

I don't think they do. Windows 7 is a very stable product, works well, and most people like it and recommend it, so why does Windows 8 need to come out so soon after the release of 7? The same goes for Office 2010, a beta for the next version of Office is apparently going to be here this summer. If anything, the constant software upgrades/replacements are were Microsoft are going wrong. Most people haven't bought the latest release of their software before the next release is thrown into their face. I know many people who have only just upgraded from Office 2007 to 2010 and now not two years after the release of 2010, a beta for the next release is on its way. It's a bit ridiculous really. I can see why Windows 7 got released so quickly after Vista though, and the same goes for why XP was released quickly after Me.

Until now Microsoft has made MANY operating systems and each one of them has SOMETHING what is useful to people.

Yes, I do agree with this, for something for everybody in each edition of Windows.

There is/are no bad operating system(s).Only bad user(s) with small amount of knowledge in order to use them properly...

I kind of agree with you here too. Usually though it's bad software and drivers as well as bad hardware which can cause OS instability and make believe that their OS is "bad". Mind you though, the user decided to install that software and/or hardware so you can't blame the OS for that. Some people just demand too much from an OS too, I guess.

 

[MyCattMaxx]

They need W8 because they are losing market share without a metro based touch screen app.
They are way behind the competition without it

 

[Geoff]

I don't think they do. Windows 7 is a very stable product, works well, and most people like it and recommend it, so why does Windows 8 need to come out so soon after the release of 7? The same goes for Office 2010, a beta for the next version of Office is apparently going to be here this summer. If anything, the constant software upgrades/replacements are were Microsoft are going wrong. Most people haven't bought the latest release of their software before the next release is thrown into their face. I know many people who have only just upgraded from Office 2007 to 2010 and now not two years after the release of 2010, a beta for the next release is on its way. It's a bit ridiculous really. I can see why Windows 7 got released so quickly after Vista though, and the same goes for why XP was released quickly after Me.


Yes, I do agree with this, for something for everybody in each edition of Windows.


I kind of agree with you here too. Usually though it's bad software and drivers as well as bad hardware which can cause OS instability and make believe that their OS is "bad". Mind you though, the user decided to install that software and/or hardware so you can't blame the OS for that. Some people just demand too much from an OS too, I guess.

If you think this is bad look at Mac, they release a new OS every year now. Not to mention all of their software only works on the latest OS, so if you want iCloud you need their latest OS. I do agree though that they need to slow down.

 

[S.T.A.R.S.]

Yes I also agree that Microsoft should slow down a little bit.
But the reason why they are probably doing this is because there is a BIG competition in the world and they always try to beat them all to be number ONE so that they can make a lot of money...more than anyone else.

 

[spirit]

But the reason why they are probably doing this is because there is a BIG competition in the world and they always try to beat them all to be number ONE so that they can make a lot of money...more than anyone else.

I suppose so, Microsoft always want to be the leaders.

They need W8 because they are losing market share without a metro based touch screen app.
They are way behind the competition without it

I suppose so too, Microsoft don't currently have an OS for the latest tablets really. But what I don't get is why they just don't make a modified version of Phone 7 for the tablets? Us regular laptop/desktop users don't need or want all the extra stuff Windows 8 comes with to make it more tablet-friendly.

 

[MyCattMaxx]

I now have W8 set up just like a desktop.
It looks and acts the same as W7 does.

 

[Dragunov IV 424]

They need W8 because they are losing market share without a metro based touch screen app.
They are way behind the competition without it

We do not need Win8. They can just update win7.

 

[Des_Zac]

If you think this is bad look at Mac, they release a new OS every year now. Not to mention all of their software only works on the latest OS, so if you want iCloud you need their latest OS. I do agree though that they need to slow down.

But you have to look at it from the price point too. You could buy Snow Leopard, Lion, and the upcoming Mountain Lion, and it still costs less than Windows 7. I think you're looking at it the wrong way.

Edit: 500 posts!

 

[MyCattMaxx]

We do not need Win8. They can just update win7.

You are not thinking again, are you?

Microsoft needs Windows 8 because they are way behind in the mobile browser area, that has already been brought up in this thread.
If you don't want W8 there isn't going to be anyone putting a gun to your head to get, unless you buy a new store bought comp.

 

[S.T.A.R.S.]

...there isn't going to be anyone putting a gun to your head to get...

Why do you think I still use Windows XP?

That moment I just told him: ALRIGHT ALRIGHT I WILL USE WINDOWS XP JUST DON'T KILL ME I HAVE A WIFE AND KIDS!!!

And he told me: You don't have a wife and kids!

And me: .........some day I might...


LOL!

 

[tremmor]

There is a lot of people involved in the development that goes on and on.
Its strictly a beta ver. People that do install welcome the challenge and they feedback and fix and fix. One day it will be released to the market. If my Windows 7 Pro is obsolete and getting near the end of the road i will upgrade. Not yet.......

 

[MyCattMaxx]

So far I have found W8 to be easier on resources than W7.
It also boots and shuts down faster, but that is not a really big issue to me.
Windows Explorer is set up different, I kind of like the way they set some of it up.
This is a pic of part of a tutorial I made, but shows the changes.

 

[S.T.A.R.S.]

OTHERWISE:

(And a lot more...hehehe)...

MUHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

 

[byteninja2]

It would be good idea if it was called windows tablet and windows 7 will still be for sale for laptops and desktops. Windows 8 isn't good with a keyboard and mouse.

 

[tremmor]

Ya have to understand that windows is not updated for a lifetime. Just like a program and no diff. one or two yr updates. then expired and buy again. As with many programs.

think the updates for all ver's have been around 6 or 8 yrs before expiring. Not bad.

 

[MyCattMaxx]

It would be good idea if it was called windows tablet and windows 7 will still be for sale for laptops and desktops. Windows 8 isn't good with a keyboard and mouse.

I have made several minor changes and it is easy to use with a mouse and keyboard.
I even changed start-up so it boots into the desktop instead of the metro tiles.
I am a desktop kind of guy and don't care for the Metro crap.

But so far I see no need to pay to have W8 for myself.
I do like some of the changes, but so far it is not worth the cost to move over for the differences.
But this is just a beta release and we shall see what changes will be made in the RC release.

 

[S.T.A.R.S.]

Well this is just a beta.They will probably give an option to choose between metro and desktop.
I hope...

If not,I will bomb the Microsoft =D

 

[Okedokey]

Microsoft are trying to socialise the new tablet GUI (Windows 8) to their base of customers. In many people's eyes that’s the future. Im not so sure.

Mobile computing is the future in all likelihood, and Windows has always been the default. That is a massive strategic risk for Microsoft . So Windows has to do something to make their system the standard in a changing use pattern. That’s Windows 8. Pretty basic stuff. And Stars, commercial reality and "need" have nothing to do with one another, so enough with the XP is all you need argument. If you were God we'd be driving Model T's. Better for the environment I guess, although probably not

 

[spirit]

Just tried Windows Phone 7 on the my Dad's new Nokia Lumina 710. The whole "Metro" UI works really well for Phone 7 on the smartphone and I imagine it also works well for the tablets, but it just doesn't work on a 24" monitor with Windows 8... Nice concept for mobile devices, but not good for the desktop.

Mobile computing is the future in all likelihood

I agree. People are already starting to rely on their tablets and smartphones more. I've got a friend who recently ditched his laptop for an iPad 2 and uses that as his PC. He does all his homework on it, all his emails on it, it's basically just like his PC. In the future everybody's probably going to be doing this, apart from the gamers who'll stick with the good old desktop PCs.

Mobile computing is the future in all likelihood, and Windows has always been the default. That is a massive strategic risk for Microsoft .

Yes, Windows has always been the 'default' for desktops/laptops, but Microsoft have never really taken off in the mobile world. More people have Android and iOS based phones than they do WinMo. I think Windows 8 is their opportunity to get some market share in the mobile world and in order to get some market share Microsoft have made sure that Windows 8 is as phone/tablet-friendly as possible. That means making use of touchscreens and having an "app store" and having the whole Metro UI (which does work well on Phone 7 on smartphones), but by adding these 'improvements' to Windows, it makes it less friendly for the desktops and laptops, which do not use touchscreen but rather keyboards and mice. Microsoft must've had a hard time deciding whether to make Windows 8 as phone and/or tablet-friendly as possible or making Windows 8 as desktop and/or laptop-friendly as possible - and I think they went for the tablet-friendliness option. I think this may have been a mistake because just by reading this thread and reading people's opinions on both the Dev and Consumer Previews on the internet, people don't seem to really like Windows 8 on their desktops and laptops. Some people reckon Windows 8 is going to be like the next Windows Vista - tries to introduce new ideas but fails in doing so. However, whilst Microsoft may lose out on the desktop/laptop (I'm just going to say "PC" market) market here, they main gain some market share in the mobile world, so maybe it's a good idea for the "tablet-friendliness" option. Who knows? Only time, and ultimately user opinions and sales figures, can answer the question.

They're just my thoughts.

so enough with the XP is all you need argument

S.T.A.R.S., please stop with all the XP nonsense. :/ We get the message you like it. I think it's safe to call you "a Windows XP fanboy".