You obviously didn't real tlarkin's post.Caseless has always been better by a few degrees Celsius versus its cased counterparts. I'm not sure what all the arguing is about. This is an undying fact.
That's why most modern motherboards automatically reset after an unsuccessful POST, and/or have a clear CMOS button/switch on the rear I/O board.Resetting the cmos is a pain in a case
As I said originally, if you are constantly swapping out components then I can justify a caseless setup.Swapping cpu's and insulation is impossible and I do that 3 times a day sometimes.
You aren't creative enough then Several years ago I used some dryer ventilation tubing to draw cold air from the outside into the case via the intake fan. Also with this setup it didn't make my room freezing as the air was warm when it came out the exhaust fans of the case.I wouldn't be able to have the cold air from my window drop onto my rig.
They sell cheap full tower cases, but again as I said originally, if you run phase then I can justify a caseless setup.I would have to buy a very expensive lian li case to house a phase unit.
How so? Sure you can place them where ever you want, but in a case their are pre-made holes for fan screws. You need to ghetto rig that on a caseless setup.Attaching and placing fans is >9000% easier caseless.
If you were around here longer you would know that I typically update my threads every 2-3 weeks.Update your threads.
Anyone who has a HAF case has a tiny penis.
[-0MEGA-];1407916 said:If you were around here longer you would know that I typically update my threads every 2-3 weeks.
okay...enough. This isn't a case vs caseless debate or penis size argument. Post your caseless if you want. You cased up guys...your opinions are noted. Now, it's time to quit trolling.
Yes, page 109 of the 3DMark06 thread, not the SuperPi thread. Both have been updated within the past week or so.Page 109 did you say? 3 months ago? time to update.
[-0MEGA-];1407937 said:Yes, page 109 of the 3DMark06 thread, not the SuperPi thread. Both have been updated within the past week or so.
It is not trolling when you correct someone else's false information. I am simply pointing it out, and I could easily be more demeaning about it if I were so inclined.
It is not opinion either, as I am talking about the laws of thermodynamics. If you can prove those laws wrong, which no one has ever been able to refute since it was coined back in the mid 1800s.
Just b/c you quote a law to fit a certain criteria to meet your specific argument doesn't mean there aren't other characteristics of physics/laws happening when going from a cased setup to a caseless setup. Its common pc knowledge that caseless setups are cooler in retrospect to a cased setup. Maybe it's the fact you aren't enclosing heat. Regardless of the air flow available in a case a pc would radiate far more heat than a typical fan can dissipate. Also, heat absorption in the panels, and lets not forget that you have much better air flow in a caseless design than you would a case. Nothing beats having free flowing air than having it be turbulent inside a case. Ambient temperatures play a very large roll in your achievable temperatures. Cases are only good for hardware consolidation, protection, and appeal.
Anyone who has a HAF case has a tiny penis.
Thank you.3D Mark thread was updated today!!!
I submitted my score, followed the rules, and got added! That sounds like an update to me!!!
Looks like I need to resort to using all caps to get you to understand.Just b/c you quote a law to fit a certain criteria to meet your specific argument doesn't mean there aren't other characteristics of physics/laws happening when going from a cased setup to a caseless setup. Its common pc knowledge that caseless setups are cooler in retrospect to a cased setup. Maybe it's the fact you aren't enclosing heat. Regardless of the air flow available in a case a pc would radiate far more heat than a typical fan can dissipate. Also, heat absorption in the panels, and lets not forget that you have much better air flow in a caseless design than you would a case. Nothing beats having free flowing air than having it be turbulent inside a case. Ambient temperatures play a very large roll in your achievable temperatures. Cases are only good for hardware consolidation, protection, and appeal.
When I moved from my Antec 900 to my Antec 900 motherboard tray my temperatures did indeed drop a couple of celsius.
With the same heatsink, clocks, etc.
Dude, I can send you a pic via PM with proof that you're wrong. lol.
Dude, I can send you a pic via PM with proof that you're wrong. lol.
All my temps dropped on my old rig when I was temporarly running it caseless
Put the components into an Antec 300 and temps rise back up
This produces a false positive as I explained earlier. The heat can disperse more if it is open, true, however it is not going forced off with air flow. So in essence you are spreading heat to more components, but your CPU temp will drop a bit because it can spread more heat.
Cold never ever transfers to heat, heat always transfers to cold, which is the basic concept of the second law of thermodynamics.