windows vs mac vs linux vs other

Windows 8 just does not look very promising. I am running Ubuntu 11.10 and I am so excited for Ubuntu 12.04 in 5 months. I have found a app to replace any software I have used on Windows whether it is from media, internet and music production.

My issue with M$ is they are never the first to do anything and they lay no standards down to what software and hardware is used with there OS.
 
what do you think about the new windows 8 start screen i hated it the old windows start menu which has been there for many windows os's windows 8 is turning into windows phone 7

No START menu?!?! :eek::eek::eek: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!:eek::eek::eek:
Windows 8 will be like phone OS?!?!!? :eek::eek::eek: AAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!:eek::eek::eek:

What the heeeeeell are people at Microsoft doing lmao.Must be someting in the food they eat there.Because they gone NUTS!!!:eek: xD xD xD

OS which is designed to look like it is for phones is SOOOO stupid to be used on computers as well.Hell I even read somewhere that Microsoft will remove SAFE MODE!Hey SAFE MODE!!!How the hell am I supposed to live without it xD ?!

PEOPLE DO YOU REALIZE WHAT IS GOING ON?! MICROSOFT IS KILLING PC USERS!!! THIS IS EXTINCTION!!!!!!!!!!!! :D:D:D:D:D
 
No START menu?!?! :eek::eek::eek: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!:eek::eek::eek:
Windows 8 will be like phone OS?!?!!? :eek::eek::eek: AAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!:eek::eek::eek:

What the heeeeeell are people at Microsoft doing lmao.Must be someting in the food they eat there.Because they gone NUTS!!!:eek: xD xD xD

OS which is designed to look like it is for phones is SOOOO stupid to be used on computers as well.Hell I even read somewhere that Microsoft will remove SAFE MODE!Hey SAFE MODE!!!How the hell am I supposed to live without it xD ?!

PEOPLE DO YOU REALIZE WHAT IS GOING ON?! MICROSOFT IS KILLING PC USERS!!! THIS IS EXTINCTION!!!!!!!!!!!! :D:D:D:D:D

Just as during the Vista years I think Windows 8 will lead to some nice Linux growth,
 
I honestly don't. A lot of you are looking at the Metro GUI and saying WTH, get rid of it. The average customer will not be so thick headed about it. There is a desktop, and the start screen (lets face it, the start menu idea is at least 16 years old.) is near to the idea that Ubuntu had with their newer GUI.
Second, I've heard a lot about it being hard to use. Its really not. A mouse and keyboard works well with it. And its got a app store type thing in it for the people that want things now (Little appleism going on in gates house). They saw that google, android, and apple were making a killing off apps, and look here, they have it too.

Stability seems good, especially with it only being a alpha or whatever. Has a few bugs, but nothing not easily fixed.

Moral: Its a fine OS, if you look at it from a average consumers perspective. Of coarse this coming for the dude with 95-xp installed on a lappy for fun.
 
Well Windows 8 will be perfect OS for people who do not have knowledge about the computers at all.It looks nice and it is easy to use.And these 2 thing are very important to people without the knowledge about the computers.Simply because they don't wanna learn anything in order to USE it.They just want it to WORK and look NICE.

While on the other hand people WITH the computer knowledge will probably more prefer previous operating systems such as Windows 7,Vista,XP.Simply because they got used to it,they have knowledge how to use it and they simply do not have a reason to switch to something new just because it is "new" and look "super pretty".Same applies to computer programmers.I know a lot of programmers (including me) who more prefer older OS such as XP and some of us (including me) more prefer older OS look like it was in Windows 95.Why?Well simply because we love it for some reason,we got used to it and to us it is not really the look what is important.Mostly because we loose a lot of time on programming code and do not really care and have time to pay attention on wether OS is in nice colors or not lol.Who cares about that lol xD I personally never liked that nice new shinny look anyway.Why?Well because my eyes start to hurt when I am looking at all those "glassy windows full of colors" lol :P
MY EYES ARE BURNING!!! :D

And then on the other hand people who use computers for just WEB surfing,listening the music and things like that do not really know and do not wanna know things about the computers and especially the programming so the look is something what they understand and what is actually the most and mostly the ONLY important thing to them.And of course Microsoft knows that there are MANY those kind of people and for that reason they make new operating systems to look cool and nice and more people will buy it for that reason and mostly ONLY for that reason.
Do you think people would be buying Windows 7 like crazy if it looks like Windows 95? Hell no lol! They would probably think that it is the same thing and simply wouldn't buy it.Of course the rest of us who DO know about the computers and programming WOULD see MANY MANY differences and enhancements and WOULD buy it because the look is something what we don't pay attention on so much for the difference of the other kind of people.

But hey Microsoft is smart.They know that the look is one of the most important things to most of the people and they make it like crazy to make profit like crazy :D Cheers to them! :D





Cheers!
 
But hey Microsoft is smart.
that is a gross overstatement.

And for the theoretical question there, if windows looked like 95, or even 1.0, and had the stability and support of windows 7, people would still buy it.

Microsoft could definitely take a massive hit if apple tripled the price of OSX, added driver support for more chipsets, added AMD support and sold it to the custom builder.
 
And for the theoretical question there, if windows looked like 95, or even 1.0, and had the stability and support of windows 7, people would still buy it.

LoL are you sure?Because I met SO MANY MANY MANY people saying they got Windows 7.I ask them why and they always tell me that it looks SO DAMN AWESOME and they just talk about how nice it looks and how cool sounds it contains.I ask them did they have ANY OTHER reason and they always say:"There's more???" xD
You THINK people would be buying it because you know about the computers,but believe me if Windows 7 looked like Windows 95,people WITHOUT the computer knowledge would not really buy it so much since let's say Vista would look a lot more cool to them and that is the ONLY thing they see lol.
 
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I dont know about you, but I am smart enough to know that windows wouldnt go backwards. If 7 looked like 95, then vista, xp, 2000/me, and 98 would have too. In which case even changing the task bar colour would be a big change.

And speaking of illerate people buying OSs, Id be willing to bet 1/3 buy a computer not knowing whats on it. If linux started selling desktops and laptops in major retailers like walmart, kmart, bestbuy and the like, there would probably be a lot more people learning linux. assuming the same 1/3 world wide thats 2.333 billion users just using what they are handed out of the box. But say 1/3 of them were to become linux, thats 7.77 Million users not having to worry about viruses and other security issues, butting a large hit to norton, macavee and the thers out there. thats assuming 1/3 of 1/3 of 7 Billion even.
 
I dont know about you, but I am smart enough to know that windows wouldnt go backwards. If 7 looked like 95, then vista, xp, 2000/me, and 98 would have too. In which case even changing the task bar colour would be a big change.

And speaking of illerate people buying OSs, Id be willing to bet 1/3 buy a computer not knowing whats on it. If linux started selling desktops and laptops in major retailers like walmart, kmart, bestbuy and the like, there would probably be a lot more people learning linux. assuming the same 1/3 world wide thats 2.333 billion users just using what they are handed out of the box. But say 1/3 of them were to become linux, thats 7.77 Million users not having to worry about viruses and other security issues, butting a large hit to norton, macavee and the thers out there. thats assuming 1/3 of 1/3 of 7 Billion even.

Of course Microsoft would not go backwards lol.But do you actually think that people KNOW that?Hell they do not even know what "operating system" means lmao.My mom for example...she needed 2 months to learn how to use notepad lol.Same applies to those other kind of people.Believe me if you give them REAL Windows 95 and newer OS which looks exactly like REAL Windows 95 OS,they would not see a difference because all they know are few things: Facebook,WEB surfing,youtube and so on...

Me and you would see a huge difference,but not they because they do not use computers for nothing but things like Facebook,music and WEB surfing.Believe me lol.I see that every day :P
 
No START menu?!?! :eek::eek::eek: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!:eek::eek::eek:
Windows 8 will be like phone OS?!?!!? :eek::eek::eek: AAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!:eek::eek::eek:

What the heeeeeell are people at Microsoft doing lmao.Must be someting in the food they eat there.Because they gone NUTS!!!:eek: xD xD xD

OS which is designed to look like it is for phones is SOOOO stupid to be used on computers as well.Hell I even read somewhere that Microsoft will remove SAFE MODE!Hey SAFE MODE!!!How the hell am I supposed to live without it xD ?!

PEOPLE DO YOU REALIZE WHAT IS GOING ON?! MICROSOFT IS KILLING PC USERS!!! THIS IS EXTINCTION!!!!!!!!!!!! :D:D:D:D:D


There is a Windows 7-esque desktop/start menu underneath the application tiles screen. You can change your settings to make it look almost exactly like Windows 7.

SO RELAX MAN!!!!!
 
I do not think even advance users would stay with even that old of a OS, you must be apart of some weird little group cause I have friends that do programming and some other fields and they are as computer crazy as some of the rest, they like the latest and greatest. Now that I think about it though most no longer user Windows being most people I come into contact with I try to give them some experience with Linux.

Were I see Windows failing is in there App market and I only say this cause they cannot even get the Windows phone to launch a market place that would be somewhat competitive as Android or Apple. I get there logic cause when I look at Ubuntu with there release of the software center in 2009 Ubuntu 9.10 which was only three years ago Ubuntu has now over 20 million users with no commercials or ADD's that support them. Most of the success is due to there stability and going from synaptic (first form of software center 2005) to the software center. Microsoft just seems to have a hard time moving up with the times when it comes to this logic.

Plus how does M$ plan on trying to keep up on the Mobile market when IOS 5 and Android 4.0 are so much more advance and M$ just released 7.5 Mango which is no competition.
 
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No START menu?!?! :eek::eek::eek: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!:eek::eek::eek:
Windows 8 will be like phone OS?!?!!? :eek::eek::eek: AAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!:eek::eek::eek:

What the heeeeeell are people at Microsoft doing lmao.Must be someting in the food they eat there.Because they gone NUTS!!!:eek: xD xD xD

OS which is designed to look like it is for phones is SOOOO stupid to be used on computers as well.Hell I even read somewhere that Microsoft will remove SAFE MODE!Hey SAFE MODE!!!How the hell am I supposed to live without it xD ?!

PEOPLE DO YOU REALIZE WHAT IS GOING ON?! MICROSOFT IS KILLING PC USERS!!! THIS IS EXTINCTION!!!!!!!!!!!! :D:D:D:D:D

i know it is a shame but it has been there for ages
i do agreed though
 
what is ubuntu server like
beause it looks quite good

i am not a expert at servers

does it have active dirertory ?
if it does can it work on windows pc ?
it is free ?
 
It is free. And as far as the others, I don't know.
I do know that ubuntu desktop can be turned into server. The server version doesn't have a window manager, but otherwise is just a few extra packages that at easily installed.
 
It depends on what you are doing.
Windows server and ubuntu server both do the same thing, but ubuntu does it more securely. Also, ubuntu is free and updates to a new release every 6 months, thus has a better chance o plugging security issuses quickly.
 
I think the biggest thing with Ubuntu server is the low cost, when you look at what a business may have to pay for certain set up's it gets very expensive. I could also be wrong but it seems like Ubuntu also has more online literature to help it's users.

Does anyone have any experience with OSX server. Don't ever hear a lot of people use it so unsure if it is any good.
 
i have no experience on ubuntu i have only used it once when i was checking to see how good it is and it is very good

but i do have more experience on windows server

from what ive heard ubuntu server has a good ftp service
 
Since I have gone to Ubuntu I have only looked back at Windows a few times and never for long. I had about a month ago of so I had re-installed Windows 7 which some of you remember my rant about how long it took. Windows 7 with full update and downloading MSE and WLE it take about 2-3 hours were as Ubuntu took me with install and full updates and not bothering with security or a media suite cause this comes standard about 45 min to a hour. Not to mention when you have only used Linux for a while like I have going to Windows and see things like "re-install with recommended setting's" and the within the first reboot after I have done that I get the screen in the reboot "checking HDD", just a reminder to me why I left Windows. I have installed Ubuntu on about 20 different machines from my own to at least 12 of my friends and never had a single problem with the exception of doing either a wireless card driver or a gpu driver which is so easy I watched my end user 14 year old sister do without my help.
 
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