AMD Radeon HD 6xxx Thread!

tech savvy said:
the 6970 does not replace the 5970, it replaces the 5870,the 6990 replaces the 5970.
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^ This is correct.

AMDs fabrication partner couldn't deliver 32nm so they couldn't hit the desired price points with the 6870/6850, the naming scheme isn't in sync with the 5000 series
 
So assuming that all these GPU's (listed below) cost roughly the same amount, which one would you buy?

ATI Radeon 5850 1gb
ATI Radeon 6850 1gb
nVidia GTX 460 1gb

Thanks.
 
Aastii said:
And a GTX580 beats it, easily. Even with the 69xx cards overclocked, the 580 is still ahead of them performance wise.

Hexus review of them:

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=27983&page=1

I'm thinking my next upgrade will be either a 570 or a 6950, most probably the latter if prices drop to get Physx as a nice little bonus
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Yeah.

I'd prolly wanna get a 570 over a 6950, it's pretty much equal to a 6970
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2010/12/15/ati-radeon-hd-6970-review/12

You can get 6970 as cheap as £280, 6950 as cheap as £220, I can give links if you like
 
fastdude said:
Yeah.

I'd prolly wanna get a 570 over a 6950, it's pretty much equal to a 6970
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2010/12/15/ati-radeon-hd-6970-review/12

You can get 6970 as cheap as £280, 6950 as cheap as £220, I can give links if you like
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As always, I could care less about performance, which ever is the cheapest. Either would be sufficient, if the 570 was a little (as in no more than £10) more expensive I Would get it for the extras, but really, I know either will play all games for some time to come, so I don't care whatsoever that "this one gets .5 more fps...sometimes :eek:"
 
It's just as I feared. They are not as good as I thought they'd be. This is however, excellent news if you're anything like me. I think I might get the 5xxx or even 4xxx generation cards now that the release of the new 6xxx generation cards has lowered costs. They compete, but I win! It will come down to price for me, and I feel like I can't lose here because the 6xxx will still scale better for future crossfire setups.

As for how it compares to a gtx580 I could care less because I have an AMD board and SLI doesn't scale as good anyways. Hopefully the 6990 will come out soon and drop the prices of previous generations(that I want more at this point) just a little more also. This is excellent news and I plan to take full advantage of the price drops.

Edit: Also, I really wouldn't judge ati vs nvidia's latest batch until amd/radeon releases their best offering- the 6990. Nvidia already released their best, and while they are most likely the king of single gpu cards, i'm predicting a repeat of the gtx480 vs hd5970. Nvidia has good drivers, engines, and a few stats they accel at; but amd will inevitably have more stuff they are faster at as well as have multi gpu support. Plus I mean, what are you gonna do? If you have an amd motherboard and want to eventually have multiple cards you are stuck with amd/radeon/ati cards. Wait for the final series to come out before fully forming an opinion, is the point i'm trying to make here.
 
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Russ88765 said:
It's just as I feared. They are not as good as I thought they'd be. This is however, excellent news if you're anything like me. I think I might get the 5xxx or even 4xxx generation cards now that the release of the new 6xxx generation cards has lowered costs. They compete, but I win! It will come down to price for me, and I feel like I can't lose here because the 6xxx will still scale better for future crossfire setups.

As for how it compares to a gtx580 I could care less because I have an AMD board and SLI doesn't scale as good anyways. Hopefully the 6990 will come out soon and drop the prices of previous generations(that I want more at this point) just a little more also. This is excellent news and I plan to take full advantage of the price drops.

Edit: Also, I really wouldn't judge ati vs nvidia's latest batch until amd/radeon releases their best offering- the 6990. Nvidia already released their best, and while they are most likely the king of single gpu cards, i'm predicting a repeat of the gtx480 vs hd5970. Nvidia has good drivers, engines, and a few stats they accel at; but amd will inevitably have more stuff they are faster at as well as have multi gpu support. Plus I mean, what are you gonna do? If you have an amd motherboard and want to eventually have multiple cards you are stuck with amd/radeon/ati cards. Wait for the final series to come out before fully forming an opinion, is the point i'm trying to make here.
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you cant compare a dual vs a single its just not fair.Nvidia holds the best single GPU while AMD holds the best dual GPU(at this moment in time).why would you go back three generations on the GPU?i can see maybe get the 5xxx series, but the 4xxx series?unless money is an issue.
 
tech savvy said:
you cant compare a dual vs a single its just not fair.Nvidia holds the best single GPU while AMD holds the best dual GPU(at this moment in time).why would you go back three generations on the GPU?i can see maybe get the 5xxx series, but the 4xxx series?unless money is an issue.
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HAY! I run a 4870x2 and it rips. :D:good:

Edit: runs hot as hell though. :P
 
tech savvy said:
you cant compare a dual vs a single its just not fair.Nvidia holds the best single GPU while AMD holds the best dual GPU(at this moment in time).why would you go back three generations on the GPU?i can see maybe get the 5xxx series, but the 4xxx series?unless money is an issue.
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except for that a 4870 x 2 beats out most single chip cards out now... You lose DX11, but it is worth it for the price / performance ratio. That and a single 4850/4870 can still handle anything and everything out. Just because they are "old" doesn't make them bad at all, it just means they aren't the bleeding edge of technology any more
 
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Aastii said:
except for that a 4870 x 2 beats out most single chip cards out now... You lose DX10, but it is worth it for the price / performance ratio. That and a single 4850/4870 can still handle anything and everything out. Just because they are "old" doesn't make them bad at all, it just means they aren't the bleeding edge of technology any more
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HD4870X2 is pretty bad value though. It hasn't dropped an awful lot in price, much like Intel's E8*** C2Ds. It's also hard to find.

HD 4870 x2 - £295
GTX570 - £265

Take your pick.

Still that's not to say 4870x2 isn't a powerhouse, its just beaten by newer cards with better technologies that run cooler less noise less power and more performance. If you already have one, keep it.

For a new rig, its a no no
 
fastdude said:
HD4870X2 is pretty bad value though. It hasn't dropped an awful lot in price, much like Intel's E8*** C2Ds. It's also hard to find.

HD 4870 x2 - £295
GTX570 - £265

Take your pick.

Still that's not to say 4870x2 isn't a powerhouse, its just beaten by newer cards with better technologies that run cooler less noise less power and more performance. If you already have one, keep it.

For a new rig, its a no no
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or get one used for the same price as mid range cards, but with massively more amounts of power:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/4870x2-/11064..._TV_Cards_TW&hash=item19c2c2f36f#ht_500wt_950

For £127 shipped, you aren't going to find anything even close to as powerful as that
 
Aastii said:
or get one used for the same price as mid range cards, but with massively more amounts of power:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/4870x2-/11064..._TV_Cards_TW&hash=item19c2c2f36f#ht_500wt_950

For £127 shipped, you aren't going to find anything even close to as powerful as that
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Wow, that sounds like a great deal. It's only like 10 miles away from where I am too! Only thing I can think of that would even come close in terms of value: http://overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-103-MS
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-...0mhz-1600cores-dp-dvi-hdmi-aliens-vs-predator

HD4870x2 loses to HD5870, not sure how it compares to GTX460 1GB ~£130 or HD5850 ~£150
 
I actually considered getting a 4870x2 before,Although i heard they run hot as hell and are noisy + the lack of DX11 so i gave it a miss.

Should be getting my 6950 2gb tommorow,Cant wait to use my rig in sig again.
 
Nevakonaza said:
I actually considered getting a 4870x2 before,Although i heard they run hot as hell and are noisy + the lack of DX11 so i gave it a miss.

Should be getting my 6950 2gb tommorow,Cant wait to use my rig in sig again.
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I see you already put it in your sig, as did I. Gah I freakin can't wait. Mine is suppose to be in thursday but I think it'll get here by tomorrow it's only in one state over
 
fastdude said:
Wow, that sounds like a great deal. It's only like 10 miles away from where I am too! Only thing I can think of that would even come close in terms of value: http://overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-103-MS
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-...0mhz-1600cores-dp-dvi-hdmi-aliens-vs-predator

HD4870x2 loses to HD5870, not sure how it compares to GTX460 1GB ~£130 or HD5850 ~£150
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It beats a 460 and a 5850, the only downside, which can be expected from a dual GPU card is that it runs hotter and uses more power

Nevakonaza said:
I actually considered getting a 4870x2 before,Although i heard they run hot as hell and are noisy + the lack of DX11 so i gave it a miss.

Should be getting my 6950 2gb tommorow,Cant wait to use my rig in sig again.
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It is dual GPU, it is no surprise that it runs hotter, or that it is louder to keep the temps down
 
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